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Post by 2TDave on Sept 6, 2014 16:35:10 GMT -5
Did you pull the manifold off to check the reeds? If so what did you use to seal it back up? New gasket?
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 6, 2014 16:42:05 GMT -5
Did you pull the manifold off to check the reeds? If so what did you use to seal it back up? New gasket? Yes I took it off and no I didn't replace the gasket, the one on there was in really good shape still so I was careful to reseat it. I just ended up stripping one of the 4 bolts so I'm sure that's going to be an issue to solve down the road. NEWS! I got it running! I read somewhere someone had a similar problem and bypassed the petcock, since the tank and lines are higher than the carb I just ran the line right into the carb and VIOLA. But I still have that same noise and now I may have a bad petcock? The noise just sounds like the motor is running harder to me, but I'm not familiar with how they should sound so I can't tell. If you have time to swing by tomorrow, let me know when? I'm going to pack it in for the night. Neighbors are starting to bug me.
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 6, 2014 16:45:13 GMT -5
10-4
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 6, 2014 16:47:18 GMT -5
If the float isn't seating properly fuel will continue to drain in the carb overnight and fill the case. pull and plug the line until you work on it again.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 6, 2014 17:05:23 GMT -5
If the float isn't seating properly fuel will continue to drain in the carb overnight and fill the case. pull and plug the line until you work on it again. Ugh... I'll just put the petcock back in line then so I don't flood it. I just packed it in but the tools are still in the bucket and the bucket isn't screwed back on thankfully. Shouldn't take me long. Thanks for the info! It will charge overnight till I can either figure it out or tinker with it some more I guess.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 7:53:57 GMT -5
Not I'm not sure if the fuel pump is bad or not, I'll try to pump the vacuum line later I guess and see if I can get fuel to flow through it normally again. Maybe having it disconnected just means it needs to be primed.
I also read 90gtvert's post on how to bypass the oil pump, but is that all necessary? Can't I just remove the oil tank, remove the oil lines, cap the inlet at the carb and just mix? I'm concerned now that could be what's going on since I didn't see much blue smoke yesterday.
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 7, 2014 8:45:39 GMT -5
You can suck on the vacuum line to get fuel out of the line if it's working. Capping the lines should be fine. Lots do that way. It will smoke less when warmed up. If you added the correct amount of oil it has no choice but to be getting it.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 8:53:37 GMT -5
You can suck on the vacuum line to get fuel out of the line if it's working. Capping the lines should be fine. Lots do that way. It will smoke less when warmed up. If you added the correct amount of oil it has no choice but to be getting it. That's what I figured. I may do that just for the hell of it when I get a chance. Gotta take the GF to work at noon and I'll be home till I have to get her at 6. I'm still concerned about the noise change but to be honest I'm thinking it's just because I put the higher octane in and the engine is just running a little harder. I feel though that the hunt for a scoot for her just got a bit harder. Now I will have to look into dipping into two credit cards for her to get her something decent. One doesn't do cash advance so I'm stuck looking for a dealer.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 12:41:24 GMT -5
UPDATE:1:2:
Start issue figured and fixed. I primed the fuel pump with a syphon pump I have laying around. Got some gas to flow manually through it, hooked it up and now it starts AND fuel is flowing. Yay for air bubbles and clear lines?
Now I'm going to remove the oil tank, cap off the oil lines, mix and see if that's what the noise is.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 14:51:10 GMT -5
UPDATE 2.0:
The fuel is flowing through the pump. I emptied the lines and tank, put in the gas with the oil mixed 32:1 ratio approx. I added the oil to the gas can with the gas in it, shook it up and poured the blue life into it. Primed the line and she started up, even seems like she quieted down a little. Maybe the lack of oil was the issue to the noise? I don't know. I'm starting to think the baffle in the exhaust just isn't happy, who knows. I cut the oil lines and capped the line at the carb with a nipple. I did some minor electrical clean up too while I was in there, sorry but I'm anal about wires hanging around. A few zip ties, a new connector and moving the ground wire to another part of the frame made me happier that it wasn't just hanging down by the shroud.
So, now we'll see how she runs. I'm going to take her out for a few in a bit once I cool off.
Thanks for the input 2TDave. You're my new best friend here.
Let's hope I don't have to come back to this post?
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 7, 2014 15:28:12 GMT -5
Let's hope you do with good results!
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 16:00:47 GMT -5
Let's hope you do with good results! Well... I can say one thing about this scoot, it's good exercise... Had to push it a mile down dixie to my house again. It starts right up, idles a little high but I blame myself for that since I turned the idle up a bit on it before. So now, this. I drove it around a few miles. Went north on Dixie and it actually was faster than it was before with the wind. Up to 65kph (it stops at 35mph and I'm too lazy to do the conversion right now lol). I drove through a neighborhood, came back south on Dixie and said screw it I'm going to go further south and take it on to US1. So I did and it was fine. Rode a couple miles up, went back through the neighborhood and all was fine until... When making a left turn onto one street, there's a slight drainage gulley in the road, I've hit it numerous times on the scoot and in my car. Well this time I hit it, not terribly fast (under 20mph I'd say) and when I went to give her throttle to go down the road (the road goes downhill slightly) it wound up then suddenly wanted to bog down. I let off the throttle and it idled fine. Keep in mind I was riding WOT all this time and no issues till I hit the bump. I coast down the road and tried to throttle again, no sir... So I figured maybe I overheated it? So I pulled over, had a cig and she started right up. I got on and tried to get it to move, it revs up barely enough to budge it and it wants to stall out. Ok... I take it apart (I was smart to pack a small tool kit in it because you never know). I removed the bucket, figured it wasn't running rich enough? Turned the screw counter-clockwise (not the idle, but the mixture) a half turn. Got back on and nope. Same thing. I started it back up and checked the fuel lines, air bubble in there so I moved the line to see if the air bubble moved. It would, but slightly. Lines all looked ok otherwise though. So, did I break it? Is this a jet issue or maybe I just have a bad vacuum line for the fuel pump and hitting the bump angered it? DOES GOD HATE ME AND WISH FOR ME TO SUFFER ON TWO WHEELS?!?!? *sobs* I'm done for now. I have to shower and go pick up the GF and give her the bad news that she has to ride her bike to work tomorrow.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 16:45:54 GMT -5
Doing some reading and I think the petcock/fuel pump may be bad after all. I may have just finished it off. I dunno. Till the new fuel lines and clamps come in, I'm afraid to venture into it any more. I want all clear lines and I need to probably shorten the vacuum line on it that I replaced, but that will have to wait till either later tonight or tomorrow if I can get the chance. *sigh* That's the only logical thing I can think of since it ran BEAUTIFUL when I first took it out.
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 7, 2014 16:46:58 GMT -5
Did you check the plug wire? These things are notorious for bad boots that become loose and stripped so to speak. I had to pack aluminum foil in one once.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 7, 2014 17:53:07 GMT -5
Did you check the plug wire? These things are notorious for bad boots that become loose and stripped so to speak. I had to pack aluminum foil in one once. Huh, never thought of that. No, but I did have it apart earlier when I removed the shroud to get to the oil lines. It looked ok then. If it goes though, I have to get a new coil too right? Now you're making me want to order a new coil. I'm going to order a new fuel pump though, found one on eBay for $7.95. Just for the hell of it at least. I got more vac tubing too so I can properly replace what's there, I may take a quick crack at it tonight just to see if it revs up right again. I felt bad telling the GF she has to ride a bike to work lol. But I'll check the plug wire as well and add some foil to the tip just for shitz and giggles.
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