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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 19, 2014 8:48:11 GMT -5
Curious. Got a new battery in the Baccio VX50 that I'm naming "Christine"... Seems like the battery isn't holding a charge though. She drives it for 6-10 miles at a clip and has to kick start it, like the battery never gets a charge from riding. Should I start it up and measure voltage coming from it to the battery and where should it be about?
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Post by niz76 on Sept 19, 2014 10:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 19, 2014 10:15:57 GMT -5
After what I've been going through with her temperamental a$$, she deserves it lol. Thanks for the link! I brain farted and didn't think to look for his vids. I wonder if he has any weight loss vids too?  |
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Post by niz76 on Sept 19, 2014 11:14:21 GMT -5
Knowing Brent he has that covered too! When I went to buy the 90cc parts, the guy was very knowledgable about 2 strokes and performance. His best performance tip: Lose weight. lol he said he didn't mean it in a bad way or anything. He just noticed that dropping just 10 lbs. gave him great added performance. That's as good motivation as anything I guess haha.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 19, 2014 11:35:20 GMT -5
Knowing Brent he has that covered too! When I went to buy the 90cc parts, the guy was very knowledgable about 2 strokes and performance. His best performance tip: Lose weight. lol he said he didn't mean it in a bad way or anything. He just noticed that dropping just 10 lbs. gave him great added performance. That's as good motivation as anything I guess haha. Well if that's the case, I better look into strapping a V8 into that Baccio of mine.  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2014 7:27:05 GMT -5
Trust me, at 300lbs I have no weight loss vids. lol I got down to 250 a couple years ago, but didn't keep it off. Little dudes on similar scoots can smoke me, which is why I yell "holy $#!+ look at that" and point and takeoff while they look.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 20, 2014 7:35:01 GMT -5
Trust me, at 300lbs I have no weight loss vids. lol I got down to 250 a couple years ago, but didn't keep it off. Little dudes on similar scoots can smoke me, which is why I yell "holy $#!+ look at that" and point and takeoff while they look. LMFAO! I'm right there with ya. Yeah, I checked last night and barely broke 12v while almost half way on throttle. Today I'll check the rectifier and stator on AC setting like you showed. She has a charged battery and jump pack with her for now, but I fear it won't put out enough juice to keep it running soon. Plus I think that's why the mileage is absolute shite right now. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2014 9:57:15 GMT -5
Some sample specs from checking one of my stock stators. You can ignore the NCY stuff, this was a comparison. This chart shows the AC voltage measured from the yellow/red lighting circuit supply wire coming from the stator. The stator was disconnected from the rest of the scooter, other than connections for ignition so it would run. As you can see, the NCY falls way short of the voltage the stock stator puts out. | Stock | NCY | RPM | VAC | VAC | 2,000 | 14 | 4 | 4,000 | 25 | 8 | 6,000 | 37 | 11 | 8,000 | 46 | 15 | 10,000 | 56 | 18 |
This chart shows the AC voltage measured from the white charging circuit supply wire coming from the stator. Again, the stator was disconnected from the rest of the scooter, other than connections for ignition to allow it to run. The NCY comes in well behind the stock stator on this test as well. | Stock | NCY | RPM | VAC | VAC | 2,000 | 16 | 6 | 4,000 | 30 | 12 | 6,000 | 44 | 17 | 8,000 | 55 | 22 | 10,000 | 67 | 29 |
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 20, 2014 10:51:22 GMT -5
Some sample specs from checking one of my stock stators. You can ignore the NCY stuff, this was a comparison. This chart shows the AC voltage measured from the yellow/red lighting circuit supply wire coming from the stator. The stator was disconnected from the rest of the scooter, other than connections for ignition so it would run. As you can see, the NCY falls way short of the voltage the stock stator puts out. | Stock | NCY | RPM | VAC | VAC | 2,000 | 14 | 4 | 4,000 | 25 | 8 | 6,000 | 37 | 11 | 8,000 | 46 | 15 | 10,000 | 56 | 18 |
This chart shows the AC voltage measured from the white charging circuit supply wire coming from the stator. Again, the stator was disconnected from the rest of the scooter, other than connections for ignition to allow it to run. The NCY comes in well behind the stock stator on this test as well. | Stock | NCY | RPM | VAC | VAC | 2,000 | 16 | 6 | 4,000 | 30 | 12 | 6,000 | 44 | 17 | 8,000 | 55 | 22 | 10,000 | 67 | 29 |
Ok, great! But, what's the NCY? Ya lost me bro. Remember, I'm still new and picking up on lingo here and there. |
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Post by 2TDave on Sept 20, 2014 11:36:27 GMT -5
Forget the NCY. It is a performance ignition he did comparisons on.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 20, 2014 11:43:43 GMT -5
Forget the NCY. It is a performance ignition he did comparisons on. Oh. Hah no, I'm not looking into that. But I did print this out for reference though when I get to check it later. I'm making a trip to Harbor Freight today. I'm going to swap out that compression tester kit, just in case and I also have to look for a few more tools. *sigh* Good thing I have today and tomorrow to putz around with this thing, eh? I just have to make room on the patio now to get it on there so I'm not in the sun the whole time. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2014 18:26:12 GMT -5
Just posted that because the stock numbers (red) should be a decent reference for what you'd be looking for. Not spot on like those are ideal, but somewhere in the ballpark.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 20, 2014 19:33:49 GMT -5
Just posted that because the stock numbers (red) should be a decent reference for what you'd be looking for. Not spot on like those are ideal, but somewhere in the ballpark. Well... Thanks for the reference. I tested as you showed. I started the scoot, disconnected that plug (3 prong, left 2 individual connections in for ignition). I connected to the ground and checked each of the other two and the numbers looked ok. Rev'd it up and the numbers went up. Pretty much how you listed. Then the funny part. I noticed the headlight wasn't working, so I panicked for a second. Then I thought "Wait, maybe that's what that connection is? For all the power? So I plugged it in and VIOLA, the lights came on. Brake lights and turn signals worked without it plugged in. NOW here's the funny part. The scoot started to idle rough, like it was struggling to hold it's RPM, when I plugged it back in. I shut it off, plugged it back in, started it and it was hard to start. Once I got it running, I unplugged it and the RPM went up. So, bad Stator not giving enough or bad rectifier? Oh and Where the hell is the rectifier? Don't tell me I have to take the body apart. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 20, 2014 20:06:26 GMT -5
Since the numbers you got from the stator unplugged from the rest of the scoot pretty much match what I got, it should be alright. If the battery is charged up above 12V and you can't get above that reading when it's running as one of the vids showed, then it's most likely the rectifier or a connection somewhere. I'm not sure where the rectifier is on that model, but it's often under the front panel. Maybe one of the other guys will know.
Oh and that harness you disconnected is what supplies all AC power so things that are AC powered won't work, like headlights. Brake lights are usually DC powered by the battery, so they can work without it as long as the batt is charged. It's normal for the engine to struggle more with a load on the charging/lighting system.
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Post by jhobe6678 on Sept 20, 2014 20:22:45 GMT -5
Since the numbers you got from the stator unplugged from the rest of the scoot pretty much match what I got, it should be alright. If the battery is charged up above 12V and you can't get above that reading when it's running as one of the vids showed, then it's most likely the rectifier or a connection somewhere. I'm not sure where the rectifier is on that model, but it's often under the front panel. Maybe one of the other guys will know. Oh and that harness you disconnected is what supplies all AC power so things that are AC powered won't work, like headlights. Brake lights are usually DC powered by the battery, so they can work without it as long as the batt is charged. It's normal for the engine to struggle more with a load on the charging/lighting system. Well since the rectifier is cheap, I'll just order it now and look for it later. As for the charge, I didn't meter the battery after the full charge. I'll get a chance tomorrow, it was dark out and the rain kept coming and going while I was outside. I didn't want to mess too much with electrical in the rain. Bad memories... *shudders* But ok. That's sort of a relief, since the stator is a PITA to take out of there. Now to figure out this knocking at low idle still. *sigh* I'm tempted to just dump this thing at a local mechanic, tell him to put the BBK on and tune the engine for me and hope the knock goes away. Yay for credit cards. |
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