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Post by dan50 on Oct 4, 2016 19:35:23 GMT -5
I've rode my scooter in -5 degrees Fahrenheit. I dress real warm, snowmobile suit, balaclava, full face helmet and several layers of clothes. As long as there is no snow or ice, I ride.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 19:39:48 GMT -5
I've rode my scooter in -5 degrees Fahrenheit. I dress real warm, snowmobile suit, balaclava, full face helmet and several layers of clothes. As long as there is no snow or ice, I ride. I think if a cop saw me riding in that low of a temperature, he would pull me over just on general principles, ha ha. He would think I was nuts, or drunk I am sure. Then again, he probably would not want to exit his nice warm cruiser so...he would just let me pass. Bill
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Post by phatmanxxl on Oct 4, 2016 19:45:30 GMT -5
I've rode my scooter in -5 degrees Fahrenheit. I dress real warm, snowmobile suit, balaclava, full face helmet and several layers of clothes. As long as there is no snow or ice, I ride. Same here, I used to ride a 18speed bicycle in northern Illinois as long as the roads were dry. I plan on scootin' this winter too.
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Post by dan50 on Oct 4, 2016 19:46:06 GMT -5
I am nuts when it comes to 2 wheelers! I love to ride.
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Post by phatmanxxl on Oct 4, 2016 19:50:40 GMT -5
In the cold weather you have to richen the air/fuel mixture. Cold weather requires more gas, this is why a car gets less gas mileage in the cold. As far as winter tires, look fora set of dual purpose street/dirt tires, they are not full on knobbies, but they look like knobbies that are real close together, also it will be easier to put screws in the side knobbies of the tire as moofus02 suggested without causing a leak. Got some for winter use already. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001CDA8G0/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Post by dan50 on Oct 4, 2016 19:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by bluegoatwoods on Oct 4, 2016 20:32:24 GMT -5
In the cold weather you have to richen the air/fuel mixture. Cold weather requires more gas, this is why a car gets less gas mileage in the cold. As far as winter tires, look fora set of dual purpose street/dirt tires, they are not full on knobbies, but they look like knobbies that are real close together, also it will be easier to put screws in the side knobbies of the tire as moofus02 suggested without causing a leak. That's a good idea, too, and I'm going to have to think about that. I just might become more of a winter rider than I'd thought. Maybe not, though. I'm happy with a bicycle in the dead of winter when a motor just isn't quite the right thing. I notice that you're a Michigander, dan50. Me, too. My home state. But I left more than thirty years ago. Left a few life-long friends and quite a bit of family behind. But the friends I stayed in touch with plus most all of the family have now passed on. I've lost my roots! But I still remember Michigan kindly, of course.
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Post by bluegoatwoods on Oct 4, 2016 20:40:19 GMT -5
And that's one fine looking tire too. I'll have to go back to that website and see if they have those in my size. I'd be about willing to commute to work on those in all but really bad road conditions. I'd still sneak down the back roads, avoiding real traffic. But real winter riding would seem a lot more possible on those. It's already getting late in the season. There's still time. But not a lot of it. Even if I don't manage it this year, though, there's always another winter coming. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 20:46:50 GMT -5
OK, I have a question about winter riding. Yes, I agree that you need to re-tune for the colder, denser air...no problem there. But, now think about this for a minute, us air-cooled guys (which is most of us I believe) give the scoot a minute or two to warm up before really leaning on it right? So now, let's say it is -5 like Dan rides in. Our cooling fans and shrouds are still the same as they were when riding in 100 degree weather so...my million dollar question is...will our engines over-cool in this kind of climate? Maybe the few winter riders we have can chime in here, especially if they are running a cht gauge as well.
My concern is that, with that fan turning and turning like always, and the air at -5 degrees F, is the engine ever really "warmed up"? Or, are we just riding around putting excessive wear on the parts because they never reach operating temperature?
I do not know, that is why I am putting this out there. I am afraid this might be the case but...I do not know.
Thoughts anyone?
Bill
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Post by cwazywazy on Oct 4, 2016 21:16:53 GMT -5
I can't imagine riding in winter, other than sliding around the driveway and yard for fun. You guys are crazy.
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Post by Cincikid on Oct 5, 2016 6:40:05 GMT -5
I can just about rest my hand on the exhaust at idle now. Good question PL.
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Post by 90GTVert on Oct 5, 2016 6:41:53 GMT -5
OK, I have a question about winter riding. Yes, I agree that you need to re-tune for the colder, denser air...no problem there. But, now think about this for a minute, us air-cooled guys (which is most of us I believe) give the scoot a minute or two to warm up before really leaning on it right? So now, let's say it is -5 like Dan rides in. Our cooling fans and shrouds are still the same as they were when riding in 100 degree weather so...my million dollar question is...will our engines over-cool in this kind of climate? Maybe the few winter riders we have can chime in here, especially if they are running a cht gauge as well. My concern is that, with that fan turning and turning like always, and the air at -5 degrees F, is the engine ever really "warmed up"? Or, are we just riding around putting excessive wear on the parts because they never reach operating temperature? I do not know, that is why I am putting this out there. I am afraid this might be the case but...I do not know. Thoughts anyone? Bill I give mine an extra few minutes to warm up and then don't go WOT for a few. When it's really cold, I'll let the 4T's oil temp gauge reach 100F before I go anywhere. Winter is the one time the 4Ts will keep oil temps down effortlessly, but still at least see 180F IIRC. CHTs are good on 2Ts and 4Ts for me. Looking back quickly at notes from the TaoTao, I see 313F max on a 25F night, 318F @ 45F, and spring to fall rides range from 330-400F. I've rode both 2Ts and 4Ts down to about 0F, but I don't have notes from all of that. Looking back at this vid on snow and ice at around 20F, I can see that my CHT on the 2T was over 280F and I wasn't hard on it because of conditions.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2016 9:38:46 GMT -5
Excellent Brent, thank you very much. Wow, that is a lot warmer than I thought they would get in those low outside temperatures. Also, I did even think of it until you mentioned it but, if I am out riding in 0 degree F weather, I am probably not going W.O.T. even if the roads are clear as, the wind chill at 35-40 mph would probably be like -50..ha ha. (Actually, I just looked it up and it is -51 degrees F! at 40 mph)
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Bill
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Post by phatmanxxl on Oct 5, 2016 12:39:34 GMT -5
I can't imagine riding in winter, other than sliding around the driveway and yard for fun. You guys are crazy. I live is southern Missouri, it only gets bad in January/February.
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Post by dan50 on Oct 5, 2016 14:46:20 GMT -5
I can't imagine riding in winter, other than sliding around the driveway and yard for fun. You guys are crazy. Yes, we are crazy! Any excuse to ride.
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