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Post by totallytoasty on Feb 3, 2018 20:10:13 GMT -5
Just got a dinky little scooter and the ignition button will work sometimes, but most of the time I just have to kick start it, could be a bad connection. Not sure how to fix, any video suggestions/instructions would be very helpful.
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Post by lilpinny on Feb 3, 2018 20:25:25 GMT -5
Look over the connections and make sure not to forget your starter ground.
Also see if you can Hotwire it. If you can remove the button connections or cross the two terminals/wires you are bypassing the button. Have the key on. If it fires each time the button is bad. You can use a flathead screwdriver to cross the button terminals is they are close enough.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Feb 5, 2018 9:48:01 GMT -5
The path for power to the starter relay is from \either brake light switch, to the starter push button switch,to the small terminal on the relay. If the brake light switch is bad, no power will get to the brake light, and the brake light will not illuminate and the relay will stay off. If the push button switch is bad, again no power to the relay.
If the brake light comes on with either front or rear brake applied, check that power is coming to and passing through the starter button switch. You can check for power at the small terminal of the starter relay by placing a rubber band/bungee on a brake switch, key ON, and pushing the starter button. If no power, check the switch and connections. If the brake lights do not come on, check the brake switch connections. It is not likely both brake switches failed at the same time.
To gain access to the switch terminals and the connectors, you'll have to remove the rear instrument panel cover. Philips screws at the base on either side, and screws near each handgrip generally are used to hold the bottm and middle of the cover, with snap fittings holding the top edge in place.
tom
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Post by greginisn on Feb 5, 2018 22:43:59 GMT -5
Getting the upper headlite plastic separated from the bottom was kind of a challenge for me until I figured this out. 
You will need a very thin, strong putty knife/scraper. More stuff to buy but it works and you'll probably find another place to use it. The tabs aren't all that big and it doesn't take a lot of force to get the disconnected. Good luck, Greg Your scooter may vary, this is TaoTao Thunder. |
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Post by greginisn on Feb 15, 2018 6:27:35 GMT -5
Maybe your starter relay is bad? They do a lot of work and the contacts could easily have become corroded or burned up. So if your thumb button looks OK suspect the start relay. Or a bad ground on the engine.
Greg
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Feb 21, 2018 16:17:42 GMT -5
You can cut strips of plastic from milk cartons that will slip into the housing to disconnect the tabs. The plastic is thin enough and tough enough to do the job.
tom
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Post by zummerp on Feb 23, 2018 11:50:49 GMT -5
I’m having a near identical problem - I know my left brake sensor is bad so I’m replacing that, but it seems like something is loose or something is periodically shorting out. When it works, it works perfectly and right away! My starter motor, switch and ignition coil are brand new.
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Post by cagiva4ever on Feb 23, 2018 12:59:18 GMT -5
Does the starter Solenoid/relay ALWAYS make audible clicking noise when Activated ?
show a photo of the starter solenoid....
in a case if its "generic Honda style" version (4-pin) , then you may look diagram and Multimeter test from various W.S.M'n i.e from Kymco zx50 .............Kymco DS50 2T
i.e Mitsuba RC-2208 . Qinqqi/peugeot v-clic etc use these type also.
Eliminate fault:
-start button continuity
-as said, brake light curcuit-switch continuity
-starter solenoid Circuit test per W.S.M
-starter solenoid audible noise test observation (sign of bad Continuity weak Coil switch)
-all ground earth(-) connections
- ? no BBK in use with Over Compression. weak starter motor, etc combination issues
- ....
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Post by lilpinny on Feb 23, 2018 13:39:43 GMT -5
You can cut strips of plastic from milk cartons that will slip into the housing to disconnect the tabs. The plastic is thin enough and tough enough to do the job. tom This, btw, is also how locksmiths open doors. They cut out a piece of plastic from the back of a shampoo bottle (so it's sorta thick and strong but still flexible) and they slide it into the door jam to pop the locked door open. Works better than a credit card. |
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Post by zummerp on Feb 23, 2018 13:59:00 GMT -5
Looks like mine might have been related to the brake sensor - I noticed some questionable wiring, replaced it, and now I’m starting reliably.
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