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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 7, 2014 8:20:22 GMT -5
My koso variator is here Today so I'm going to try this one out now with a shorter boss and see how long it last.
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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 10, 2014 8:24:22 GMT -5
Well I think my yellow contra spring is what caused my variater to mess up, I put a stock 150cc contra spring in and it's way smoother on takeoff and no jerking or nutin the new koso variator is still in good shape after 100miles
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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 11, 2014 10:28:17 GMT -5
Do y'all think the yellow 1500rpm contra spring could have caused my variator to fail?
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 11, 2014 15:43:10 GMT -5
I suppose if you've got a heavy contra spring and then have to run heavy weights to balance it out, you'd be putting more force on the variator with the added mass. I dunno. I just think using springs stiffer than needed is generally not a great idea. 1000RPM is where I stop on most unless there's belt slip or I don't have weights light enough to work with the softer springs.
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Post by rexxk on Jul 11, 2014 20:29:05 GMT -5
check your guides for any digging marks. thatll tell you early if you catch it.
ive never seen a problem. if you need the motor to not shift until later, lighten the rollers. the ony problem i ever seen, out of the contra spring. was when i put a performance variator on my bike. when it got to the bottom of a hill, and i started coasting up the other side, it didnt shift back down, and i was stuck, in 2nd. trying to upll up a hill. i had to stop, and wait on it to downshift, push the rollers back down to the bottom of the variator, before i could pull up that hill. just shifting back down. not shifting until later. never seen it. use lighter rollers. use enough of a spring to shift you. springs should be pretty on the bike shifting and keep up with it, unless they get over taken by some big gear variator. which means a performance variator thats good.
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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 11, 2014 21:57:50 GMT -5
Yes mine was definitely not shifting down when I tried going back up a hill, so I now have changed from 7gram rollers to 5gram koso sliders and it. Seems to work great my rpms stay at around 7500 and when I hit 56mph or so it's almost at 8000 it doest drop when I hit hills either, I'm kinda confused at what a stronger contra spring even does,can someone explain that? Should I get a 1000rmp Contra?
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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 11, 2014 22:09:27 GMT -5
Correction they stay around 6500 when I'm just crusing around at like 35mph, if I nail it then it goes up to 7300rpm or so is that about right?it has slot of power now that's for sure
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Post by rexxk on Jul 12, 2014 2:36:08 GMT -5
im the only one who explains it, forget it. its like you guys gotta say something else then when i explaing it act lik eyou just discovered it, if yo8u done it and foudn out the bad why to do it, then you know the good. and i just stated it. you lied.
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Post by rexxk on Jul 12, 2014 2:38:34 GMT -5
well, i wont bother to reput it. at least i havent been telling people some reaosn for using something with no real purpose for it.
why if you up shift you want to downshift at a differnt time?
you set up the trans, its all cool then all of a sudden you want to downshift different?
THATS ALL I EVER HEAR. you cant explain upshift but then you go on all the time about downshift.
never makes no sense. wastes peoples time and then they get scammed into wasting money on it and their time.
makes awaste too to read about it.
your weights also is another one you use and then they all of a sudden are to heavy.
so what are you talking about? how can we answer your question?
if you dont care about the weights,then your not even tuning your transmission.
but i already answered this and you want to steal it. I FIXED IT.
so. like LEARN TO READ
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Post by rexxk on Jul 12, 2014 2:48:06 GMT -5
weights light enough to work with the softer springs. what? uh, .. uhh i used the heavies springs on a stock motor and had no problem with a 1000 rpm spring. why youd want to go heavier than what i used on a stock motor for. uh. well. then. no. give me the setup so we can know this oddball or are you not going to? we need to know the oddballs so we all can tune or are we suppoesd to take your weights light enough to work with the springs. .. ? cause that makes no sense. we all have to know so we all can tune. give us the oddball. if theres an oddball then we have to use it to compare it to ours. as for me, i call, liar. and this is crap. learn how to tune a cvt. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 12, 2014 7:16:38 GMT -5
If there's one thing I'm not, it's a liar. I can't see what I've done to warrant being called a liar.
I haven't had to use really stiff springs on the four-strokes to get in tune. I've only had to use really stiff contra springs on two-strokes before. When you need to rev very high sometimes having 4g weights and a 1000RPM contra just doesn't cut it.
If you can't understand why rollers need to work with springs, it's not me that doesn't understand the CVT. The reason I tend to call the rear spring a contra spring rather than torque spring or main spring is because I think it portrays it's function better. The rollers or sliders and the contra spring counteract or contrast each others forces. If you use a stock contra spring and 4 gram rollers and then use a 1000RPM contra spring and 4g rollers, it's going to rev much higher with the stiffer contra spring.
EDIT : Nevermind. I understand why I'm being called names. This is a member that's been banned multiple times because if you disagree or if he doesn't get what you're saying he has to call you names.
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Post by 2TDave on Jul 12, 2014 7:42:57 GMT -5
He says learn to read but I can't make sense out of anything he writes. I understand the tuning fine but the grammar has me at a loss. Nothing against our members who English is a second language I just can't understand this person. The combative name calling is too much and I don't choose to participate. If others with more knowledge than I feel the same way then we have a problem because it may stop people with questions from getting answers that are different from this member.
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Post by 2TDave on Jul 12, 2014 7:43:50 GMT -5
I see he has been banned. Thank you 90gt!
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Post by iwiketuddlz on Jul 12, 2014 10:12:51 GMT -5
What? I'm still confused do I need a 1000 Contra spring?
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Post by 2TDave on Jul 12, 2014 10:46:46 GMT -5
If your running as you described than no you don't need it. It sounds like you are happy with it.
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