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Post by 2TDave on Aug 29, 2014 15:56:06 GMT -5
Where in Fl?
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Post by chehystpewpur on Aug 30, 2014 0:50:40 GMT -5
I'm on the west side of the state about 15 mins east of Tampa bay. Luckily I'm far enough away to be in the country cause I'm not much of a city boy.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Aug 30, 2014 18:28:05 GMT -5
Well I got the belt and the variator slides. The belt isn't doing its thing though. Its doing 52 which is slower than stock and the rpms are up about 600 at any given speed. I'm hoping as it breaks in ill get my top end back but well see I guess.
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Post by 2TDave on Aug 30, 2014 18:36:12 GMT -5
You might want to try going up in roller weight.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Aug 30, 2014 20:44:34 GMT -5
I might have to try that but you'd think with the stock contra and clutch springs with 7g sliders those would be heavy enough. Granted every bike is diff though so maybe thats all it is.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 5, 2014 7:16:14 GMT -5
Well I jumped to 10g sliders from the 7g ones and nothing changed. It tops out at 54 and my rpms are about 100 rpms lower at cruising speeds. While accelerating rpms are down from 8200-8600 to about 6900 rpms. I'm completely baffled at this point. I'm going to try the heavier contra spring later today if I get a chance. Maybe the belt is slipping somewhere even though it doesn't feel like it and there are no marks from it slipping.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 6, 2014 11:23:11 GMT -5
Well it turns out I finally found out what the issue might have been. The stock contra just couldn't keep proper tension on the belt and keep it into the bottom of my torque driver it would bounce around and pull its self back out. Also the stock torque driver wont allow this or any of my belts really to go all the way in and get to my max gear ratio. Part of what was keeping me from getting full travel on my variator as well. I coaxed it farther down into the torque driver with some filing to make it open farther. Top end is back up to 55 so I feel as though when this belt wears down more it will slide farther in and get me back to where I was atleast. The old belt I was doing 57 with fits in about 1-3mm farther down than this belt does.
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Post by niz76 on Sept 6, 2014 12:28:17 GMT -5
Well it turns out I finally found out what the issue might have been. The stock contra just couldn't keep proper tension on the belt and keep it into the bottom of my torque driver it would bounce around and pull its self back out. Also the stock torque driver wont allow this or any of my belts really to go all the way in and get to my max gear ratio. Part of what was keeping me from getting full travel on my variator as well. I coaxed it farther down into the torque driver with some filing to make it open farther. Top end is back up to 55 so I feel as though when this belt wears down more it will slide farther in and get me back to where I was atleast. The old belt I was doing 57 with fits in about 1-3mm farther down than this belt does. I have my variator modified to be like an overrange. The nice thing with the extended guides and filed variator faces it actually allows me to use a thinner belt with good results. I'm running an older bando that is worn to nearly 15mm and since the variator can close so much onto it, the belt still rides all the way to the outer edge at top speed and goes nice and deep onto the boss for takeoff. A good use for older worn belts haha. Sent from my XT603 using Tapatalk 2
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 6, 2014 19:19:26 GMT -5
I honestly thought about using my old belt again but I paid so much for the malossi belt I want my moneys worth. I'm just afraid the old belt will break and damage something.
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Post by chehystpewpur on Sept 8, 2014 20:28:31 GMT -5
I cleaned and inspected everything it had some sticky residue building up on the crank shaft bushing and I think that was what was making the variator act a little funny today on the way home from work. I decided to fit the reeds that came with my Athena kit now that its well and broken in and isn't quite so peaky like it is out of the box. That cleared up some of the bog it started to develop after the cvt is good and hot and the torque driver starts to adjust.
With the 10g sliders red malossi torque spring and stock clutch springs it catches and holds at about 7500 rpms but will do about 30 under 6300 kind of feathering it. I think 9.5 or maybe 9g sliders would be about perfect with my set up but it might be too torquey on launch. On the other hand its getting very close to full variator travel so I think what was holding it back mostly was the weights and how far the torque driver opens/belt width.
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