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Post by FrankenMech on Jan 6, 2015 10:41:20 GMT -5
Y'all, they have been banning all sorts of 2T power equipment for years. You should have known it would hit scoots eventually. The EPA usually grandfathers stuff for a specific number of years but whenever a new design or a new type is produced it has to be 4T.
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Post by ohhbuddy on Jan 9, 2015 2:38:01 GMT -5
What was replied by someone i talk with that works with Kymcos. "For sure there are no 2t in the USA with carburetors. only the Ditech will be imported 2015. I'm not surprised that the Chinese bikes got screwd like that, and it's really a good thing. If they are saving money by making fake emissions reports then they should be fined out of business." Genuine Scooter Company and Sym still imports 2Ts here in the us |
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Post by aeroxbud on Jan 9, 2015 6:19:45 GMT -5
I was reading something today which really is the end of two strokes in the future. Two new Euro emissions coming in in the future. One will have to meet new emissions regs after covering 30,000KM!
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Post by tiny on Jan 9, 2015 8:22:54 GMT -5
well don't that just blow big ol' monkey chunks.
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Post by birdman on Jan 9, 2015 12:00:18 GMT -5
I made up my mind. Im buying a Tao Tao for sure now, and how does a half china half ameica flag vinyl wrap sound??... Nice indeed. Plus it shall be armed to the teeth with gross polluting performance parts, And i shall smoke v6 mustangs with it all day!! EPA this nitrous purge on my Tao Tao is for you!!
Im even going to get an out of state no CA legal tao tao and run it with arizona plates to really piss em off
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Post by birdman on Jan 9, 2015 12:07:48 GMT -5
If you want to talk about harmful to the enviorment... Look up the process of making a battery for a hybrid car.... Nickle mining... acid rain, and all kinds of gnarly irreversible damage to the enviorment, worst part is hybrid batts go bad every 100,000 miles or so. So before the fugly chevy volt or prius or nissan leaf even hit the streets, it did more damage than 1000 drag raced out johnways will ever do in thier service life.
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Post by birdman on Jan 9, 2015 12:22:18 GMT -5
every little hybrid out there is a guaranteed mini version of fukushima daiichi waiting to happen
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Post by ohhbuddy on Jan 9, 2015 12:52:19 GMT -5
If you want to talk about harmful to the enviorment... Look up the process of making a battery for a hybrid car.... Nickle mining... acid rain, and all kinds of gnarly irreversible damage to the enviorment, worst part is hybrid batts go bad every 100,000 miles or so. So before the fugly chevy volt or prius or nissan leaf even hit the streets, it did more damage than 1000 drag raced out johnways will ever do in thier service life. they're so worried about these little 2 strokers running the streets polluting. They should have bigger things to be concerned about |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 14:08:27 GMT -5
Birdman, i hope the Tao Tao you get is better than the Jonway i just test drove. it is a 2015 and has DRUM brakes on the front, steering bearings worn out, no power and seat bucket breaking on a 180lb rider.
thought the owner was kidding me about the MY, but i looked for myself, yep, it was a 2015
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 15:32:05 GMT -5
Birdman, i hope the Tao Tao you get is better than the Jonway i just test drove. it is a 2015 and has DRUM brakes on the front, steering bearings worn out, no power and seat bucket breaking on a 180lb rider. thought the owner was kidding me about the MY, but i looked for myself, yep, it was a 2015 What did it look like? I got an 08 jonway and it has disc on the front and seems to be made pretty well |
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Post by stoneforth on Jan 9, 2015 15:45:00 GMT -5
Disappointing to see these barriers on one of the most effient modes of transport.
I'm glad i don't have this problem in my country. Scoots get one inspection when first imported, then it's a simple $50 online payment every 3 months to keep it legal.
Scooter accidents are so rare in my country which is probably why you're allowed to ride them on learner car licenses.
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Post by Elektrey on Jan 9, 2015 16:41:50 GMT -5
$200 a year to ride a scooter? I'm glad I don't have that problem in my country.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 19:56:01 GMT -5
Here in Michigan it's $15 for a sticker that's good for 3 years.
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Post by scooterpimp on Jan 9, 2015 20:11:31 GMT -5
Yup in Delaware only $5 for 3 year inspection. (Thats after you get hosed for initial title & tag) no special endorsement or ins. Required. But give it time they will find some way to milk some more from my pocket.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 22:24:06 GMT -5
Yup in Delaware only $5 for 3 year inspection. (Thats after you get hosed for initial title & tag) no special endorsement or ins. Required. But give it time they will find some way to milk some more from my pocket. Hell, here they dont even look at it. You walk in with the registration from the PO (signed) and walk out with a sticker and a new reg. This last one I got had the reg and I got it signed by the PO but the whole vin wasn't even on the paper. Just the last several serial number digits. Luckily the last sticker number was on it and they apparently had the whole thing recorded in the computer. The whole thing didn't even take 5 minutes. It's real easy here for people to register 150s as a moped because the state doesn't even look at the vin's. You get in big trouble w/fines and stuff if you get caught though. Theres a group in a town nearby that you see (high schoolers) that ride together that half of em have 150s reg as mopeds. They're kinda dumb tho because they don't even bother to remove the "150cc" stickers from the side. |
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