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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 19, 2011 19:49:46 GMT -5
That beats the stuff that had been happening. Much cheaper fix for sure.
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Post by drawkward on Jun 20, 2011 6:34:36 GMT -5
Glad to hear your up and running, man. Would love to see some vids of take of and/or onboard.
Sorry to hear about the electrical issues. But think about it, better that all these little things come up at once.This gives you a chance to get them all sorted out; instead of one by one. I hate that more than fixing a lot of things at the same time. Oh and it kind of forces you to give the scooter another good one over every time you are forced to diagnose these issues. Whenever I do that, I end up catching things I didn't notice before.
Seriously, though, man - you know we love videos. Need some eye candy, broseph.
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Post by lshigham on Jun 20, 2011 11:27:16 GMT -5
I will Josh, just a case of waiting for a chance when it's not raining. I did try to go out and make one last night, but that was when it started blowing fuses :swear: A post test ride(s) report, I've done about 40miles in all. Above around 11k it run's like a dream, no problems. Below 11k, it's a bit iffy with the occasional stutter, nothing too drastic. Below 9k however is a different matter, it flat out doesn't work, not in the sense that it's powerless (it is), but it stutters and stumbles constantly, making city riding a nightmare. Andy warned me that it wasn't right, but want's me to run it in for a month before worrying about it. Not sure I can make it a month without going even more nuts that I am already to be honest  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 20, 2011 11:42:28 GMT -5
So does he just like to tune it fat for "break in" or is he expecting it to act a lot different after X miles? Just sounds odd to me. I can't imagine telling someone it's gonna run like crap for about a month, then bring it back.
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Post by lshigham on Jun 20, 2011 12:06:10 GMT -5
He was expecting it to loosen up, it really wasn't that bad when I collected it, but it got worse. It's not jetted rich by any stretch of the imagination, it's running 14-16:1 outside the powerband.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 20, 2011 12:35:12 GMT -5
Oh yeah, sorry I forgot and the dyno info is all the way on the previous page. lol
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Post by lshigham on Jun 20, 2011 12:49:53 GMT -5
Oh yeah, sorry I forgot and the dyno info is all the way on the previous page. lol Actually, that AF data is useless as it's done with a locked vari, so you hadn't forgotten anything useful  I've seen a graph of it done normally with AF, which is how I know what it's like. Apparently they don't mind running lean outside of the powerband. As for the problem, Andy's suggestion was early engaging clutch or too stiff of a contra. I'm thinking clutch personally, it feels like it. I'm going for an information gathering foray tonight, find out roller weight and jetting etc and check there's nothing gone wrong in the CVT. I'll not change anything for now, honest ;D |
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Post by lshigham on Jun 22, 2011 16:39:18 GMT -5
Main jet is 90, idle 50. I know the 50's too large from experience, so dropped it down to a 40. Man, the off idle running is sooo much smoother now ;D The clutch seems to be adjusted fine, in fact, I think it's how I had it adjusted before, close to anyway. The roller's are 4gr, seems to be right. I haven't touched anything in the CVT yet, as the belt is worn to 16.8mm from 18.5mm new :scared: As soon is I change it for a new one it'll all be different, so I'll worry about the takeoff when it's got a belt with a little more meat on it. I did wonder why it wasn't quite as fast as I was used to - seems it didn't like being flipped inside out :laugh: I've been meaning to take some onboard video's, I've found a way of rigging my cam up, and yes, it does involve duct tape :thumb: Just need it to stop raining for a few minutes at a time :censored: BTW, you guys should check this out: bigbnrg.blogspot.com/2011/06/meinerzhagen-germany-international-dssc.html |
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Post by lshigham on Jun 24, 2011 16:05:41 GMT -5
 Got my new Polini Kevlar belt in ;D Also in the pic is some Rock oil, Malossi gear oil and some freebies (a scooter attack DVD, S6 R/T thread to head's and a handful of stickers. Andy reckon's 1mm of belt wear will knock off 10mph off your top speed, so by my reckoning I'm due an extra 15mph or so! Certainly, I've been using WOT much more than usual. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 24, 2011 17:40:02 GMT -5
I hope it really is worth that much.
I have that DVD. I had to pay for it and international shipping though. I'm ordering from the wrong spots I think. lol
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Post by 2strokd on Jun 24, 2011 21:17:40 GMT -5
Whats a S6 R/T thread to head's? I know what those sticker s are, and what they will do! Good for at least 5MPH with those! Nice belt! I used one and it gripped HARD!
Best of luck with her this time around Luke! I wanna see some vids of this 14HP badboy on the rear wheel already. Or at least riding at 5,000MPH! Comon. PLEASE! LMAO!!!
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Post by lshigham on Jun 25, 2011 1:19:02 GMT -5
Whats a S6 R/T thread to head's? I know what those sticker s are, and what they will do! Good for at least 5MPH with those! Nice belt! I used one and it gripped HARD! Best of luck with her this time around Luke! I wanna see some vids of this 14HP badboy on the rear wheel already. Or at least riding at 5,000MPH! Comon. PLEASE! LMAO!!! S6 thread to head's are little S6 plastic men with spark plug's for head's. Not much use, but cool nonetheless  I hope it grips hard, thought I'd give it a chance as it was only £5 more than a decent standard replacement. I'll do the 5,000MPH, but as it's front heavy it doesn't like to wheelie much ;D It's lasted a few hundred miles, which is always a start, we live in hope anyway, I'll take a vid later today if I'm well enough to go out, haven't been too good these past days. |
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Post by lshigham on Jun 25, 2011 1:24:01 GMT -5
I hope it really is worth that much. I have that DVD. I had to pay for it and international shipping though. I'm ordering from the wrong spots I think. lol Evidently Brent - for me the DVD was free and so is next day shipping if you spend £50. It's anything from £2-5 for smaller orders  |
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Post by drawkward on Jun 25, 2011 8:36:16 GMT -5
Ha. I figured the pilot jet at first but didn't think it would affect at 9,000RPM. I guess mine takes a bit more that 1/4 throttle to get to 9,000 RPM. Did you mess with the needle jet at all?
Until I do a long all day ride on a new build, I never fully trust it - I never go too far in case I have to walk, and I listen for detonation and "feel the engine" to see if it's too hot. Generally, if the shroud is too hot to touch; than my cylinder is over heating. Even after that I keep an eye on everything for a while.
What clutch do you have again? I don't feel like searching through 33 pages. At what RPM does your clutch engage? And it seems like, no matter how front heavy, that set up with a clutch that dumps at 9,000 RPM, should be able to pull wheelies...? I guess I haven't ridden many different types of scooters, so maybe it really is that heavy?
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Post by lshigham on Jun 25, 2011 10:27:38 GMT -5
Ha. I figured the pilot jet at first but didn't think it would affect at 9,000RPM. I guess mine takes a bit more that 1/4 throttle to get to 9,000 RPM. Did you mess with the needle jet at all? Well, to be honest, I should have thought of it earlier, a different build with the stock 50 PHBG idle jet behaved in the same fashion. Until I do a long all day ride on a new build, I never fully trust it - I never go too far in case I have to walk, and I listen for detonation and "feel the engine" to see if it's too hot. Generally, if the shroud is too hot to touch; than my cylinder is over heating. Even after that I keep an eye on everything for a while. I do love my CHT gauge I do try to get a few hundred miles on it before doing anything adventurous, though I do now have breakdown cover so at least I can get rescued if it goes wrong far away from home. What clutch do you have again? I don't feel like searching through 33 pages. At what RPM does your clutch engage? And it seems like, no matter how front heavy, that set up with a clutch that dumps at 9,000 RPM, should be able to pull wheelies...? I guess I haven't ridden many different types of scooters, so maybe it really is that heavy? I've got a Stage6 torque control MKII. The reason it doesn't lift when the clutch bites is, as Brent noticed earlier, at 9k it's only making the power of a stock restricted 50cc 2T certainly not wheelie material. Plus, the clutch doesn't suddenly "bite", it first engages at 7k and slip's right they way up to 9k, making for a less "pipey" ride. It'll pull power wheelies certainly, particularly if I whack the throttle open. However, I figure you're more likely to go faster in the correct direction if both wheel's are planted on the ground, so I don't do them on purpose. LC scoot's are heavier at the front anyway, as they have a rad and coolant bottle. It's smaller cousin the Piaggio Zip will flip end over when highly tuned if the rider doesn't lean over the handle bars :burnout: |
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