Biggest advancement in Health since the dawn of penicillin?

[Cincikid]

I do not push my views onto people, or get into controversial topics normally. I would however be remiss if i did not take this opportunity to try and combat the campaign of misinformation, and; point out the extreme governmental overreach of and by the FDA.


That being said, the following information is fact.


Six million people die every year because of tobacco. This figure includes five million smokers, but also about 600,000 non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke. It is expected that, without any action, eight million people will die annually, by 2030.(American Cancer Society)

What if there was a new treatment on the market that could potentially save millions of lives every year.
Would it not be the biggest advancement in Health since the dawn of penicillin?


The Royal College of Physicians Nicotine without smoke: Tobacco harm reduction study (Link)
(Founded in 1518 the Royal College of Physicians is a British professional body dedicated to improving the practice of medicine)

Short: Vaping: 95%+ less harmful than traditional cigarettes


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Opinion + Fact.


The FDA's War on Vaping:



If you or someone you know has been affected by tobacco, I would encourage you to join CASAA (Link) and make a Difference.  

Just some things that are important to me. Thought id share.

[pinkscoot]

Having been a smoker most of my life, I tried quitting many times. Nothing worked like vaping, I got my nicotine and the vapor gave me that thing I liked about smoking. I'm down to 3mg of nicotine now so my heart is happier but I can still function. I don't believe vaping is 100% safe but it is a much safer nicotine delivery system than tobacco.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.

[humanshield]

Many in my family smoked for decades. Mom, dad, brothers, sisters.
As far as I know, everyone finally kicked the habit. Not easy tho.

If you can, kicking the habit completely can put some significant money in your pocket for other things....like scooter go fast parts

But I would agree between cigarettes and vaping, vaping seems a bit less harmful.

[90GTVert]

I smoked as much as 4 packs a day at times, average 1-2 packs, till around 2010. I decided to see how long I could go before I bought another pack. That was January 1, 2010 IIRC. I did cheat and buy I think 2 packs when one of my grandmothers died because I was stressed about being around a bunch of people for the funeral (social anxiety). As soon as the funeral was over, I tossed what was left in the trash. Basically I haven't smoked in coming up on 7 years. Not smoking seems to be 100% less harmful than smoking, near as I can figure, and has existed since before tobacco.

That said, I wish my smoker friends would switch. One tried and said it's just not the same and doesn't work for him.

[Cincikid]

Good deal 90. Like HS said "ain't ez"
I agree with HS and 90, To quit all together is the only truly safe route.

HS, I only spend @ $4 a week vaping! (make my own E-liquid) I might have to cut down on that to aford the $400 cost of a Zuma 50F BBK.

PinkS, 3mg nic is low. I bounce between .5 and 1.5. A Traditional cigarette has 24+ mgs nic.

Some statistics: (Link)
Percentage of smokers who want to quit altogether 70%
Percentage of smokers who will try to quit this year 40%
Percentage of smokers who will succeed at quitting smoking on their first time 7%
Percentage of people who will quit smoking cold turkey 3.5% (Why I advocate Vaping)
Percent of people who relapse into smoking while intoxicated with alcohol 50%
Average time it takes for toxins to leave your system after quitting smoking 10 days
Reduced rate of dying from smoking if quitting before age 30 90%
Reduced rate of dying from smoking if quitting before age 50 50%

[Deleted]

Next month, it will be 1 year since I have had any nicotine of any kind. I was smoking 1.5 packs/day and had done so since my divorce of 23 years ago. I am saving over $135/month after tax dollars and, I am feeling pretty good. Forget vaping, or nicotine gum, or patches, etc. Just quit...it is not as hard as people think. I was fortunate enough to be able to listen to an audio book on youtube (before it was taken down) done by an English guy who guaranteed that I would quit by the end of his 6 hour long book. He told us to smoke while listening to it...so I did. At the end of the program...I looked at my last unopened pack and just carried that around with me so I could have one if I could not handle it. I carried that pack around unopened for 2 weeks then tossed it. That was it. The main thing I remember from that audio program was that this is obviously an addition and not a habit. That relief you feel when you light a smoke is because you are going through withdrawal...he said it is like wearing a pair of shoes 3 sizes too small all day just so you can have the pleasure of taking them off.

Anyway, best of luck to anyone that decides to quit and not take up a substitute of any kind instead. If nothing else, more money to spend on scoots.

Bill

[ryan_ott]

I smoked for the better part of my life, since I was 10. I quit 6 years ago watching my mother die from treatment of lung cancer. Choking on burns and loose skin inside your lungs is not pleasant to watch people. I now can't stand smoking or any form of it, but when stressed I still check my pockets for my smokes. Still have not touched one in 6 yrs. I think everyone should quit, vaping included, it's quite disgusting and inconsiderate to others. Some people are more considerate then others but most are not.

The only smoking I allow comes from my exhaust.

[tsimi]

I quit smoking 5 years ago and don't miss it at all. Just stopped from one day to the other. No patches, no doctor visits just *spam!* "no more!"
Reason was my financial situation, my wife smokes still today and keep paying for 2 people is very costly and non-beneficial at all. Hell, you even don't get stoned. lol
I hate smoke or manerless smokers and believe me there are plenty around here.

The new thing that started to come into the Japanese market is the so called IQOS thing. Expensive to purchase and rare to find at the moment.

I think smoking is all just a mental thing. If you can resist at those most difficult moments and keep resisting for 1 month then you're over it.
Difficult moments are;

- every morning together with coffee
- after every meal
- stress situations
- before going to bed

If you smoke then you have to accept the consequences that will follow one day.

[tsimi]

Oct 28, 2016 9:49:54 GMT -5 PirateLabs said:

...I looked at my last unopened pack and just carried that around with me so I could have one if I could not handle it. I carried that pack around unopened for 2 weeks then tossed it. That was it.

That is exactly what I did too. I kept one unopened package with me all the time just to reduce the pressure of not having them.
I also never told anyone that I am trying to quit, not even my wife. Telling people around you that you're trying to quit raises the pressure and that causes many to fail later. When people ask me if I wanted to have a smoke I always told them, "no thank you I still have" and showed them that unopened package.

[Deleted]

I found the guy that did the audio book I used to quit. His name is Allen Carr and the book is: The Easy Way To Stop Smoking. This might be available at your local libraries, or their online services. If not, just google the info and you will find it. If I remember right, it is cheaper than like 3 packs of smokes so....not a bad deal.

People can smoke if they want, hell, as far as I am concerned they can do anything they want but, if you smoke and want to quit...this book did it for me. I have no affiliation with this guy or the book at all other than I listened to it for free when it was on Youtube.

One thing I will pass on to everyone. I,like everyone else, thought that the withdrawal pangs got worse as time goes on. In other words....you don't have a smoke for 2 hours and then think....man, if it is this bad after 2 hours...what the hell is it going to be like in 2 days? The answer is...it is the same...or even less...and the pangs only last a few minutes at a time. That's it. He says in the book that you won't even notice them after a day or so and I didn't. The habit part is different and that too is easy to break if you change your schedule around a bit for a while...anyway...he will explain all if you listen. It is 6 hours long and he says go ahead and smoke while you listen. I did. The Youtube comments were filled with folks that stopped right after hearing this guy. I am now one of them.

Good luck folks whatever you decide to do.

Bill

[spaz12]

Oct 28, 2016 20:09:59 GMT -5 tsimi said:

Oct 28, 2016 9:49:54 GMT -5 PirateLabs said:

...I looked at my last unopened pack and just carried that around with me so I could have one if I could not handle it. I carried that pack around unopened for 2 weeks then tossed it. That was it.

That is exactly what I did too. I kept one unopened package with me all the time just to reduce the pressure of not having them.
I also never told anyone that I am trying to quit, not even my wife. Telling people around you that you're trying to quit raises the pressure and that causes many to fail later. When people ask me if I wanted to have a smoke I always told them, "no thank you I still have" and showed them that unopened package.

I quit cold turkey about 6  years ago and didn't tell anyone for about a week and a half that I'd quit. I'd tried a few time before and always told people what I was trying to do. I don't think I ever lasted a day, but like you said, without the added pressure I finally did it. 
I have yet to meet a person that started vaping to quit smoking and actually quit. 

['O'Verse]

I've been on the patch for three years now. Still smoking now and then when the patch is off. Being in the construction field seems like I can't get away from it. Smelling it, seeing it, etc. I can remember quiting for what.. 6 months. I'd try anything as long as smoke wasn't going into my lungs.

[liftit]

The big argument against vaping is that the fluids haven't really been tested for their effect on health, or they have fluids that are actively harmful for you. A lot of the vape juices on the market are made as cheaply as possible and contain carcinogens. They're usually cut with some sort of oil that can cause "popcorn lung". While it is a great aid in stopping smoking, the FDA isn't going to promote something that can still cause harm to you. Their official stance is to stop smoking, period.

On the other hand, I live in Washington and can buy legal marijuana oils that are completely tested. You have your pure oil extracted from the plant and watered down with a solution proven to have no negative effects. So I vape that when I want a buzz and save my lungs.

[eclark5483]

I smoked for 22 years. It got to the point where I was buying packs of cigarettes on my credit card, then paying it back on payday, inhale, puff, repeat. And I realized, I was supporting a habit by spending money I didn't have. I was another of those tried this, tried that quitters. Chantix, gum, patch, cold turkey... nothing worked. So then I bought a Joy eGo and decided to try that. I completely expected failure, but thought... eh what the hell, nothing to lose. But to my surprise and amazement, I quit on the very first day. I buy all my batteries and cartomizers from altsmoke, and all my vape juice from freedomsmokeusa. I vape 36mg. Usually Fuzzy Navel, or Strawberry Banana. I've tried tons of flavors but those 2 are my favorite. Wyatt Earp is good if you like a tobacco type flavor. So yeah, it's been 6 years since September 26th that I have ever puffed on a cigarette. I breathe so much better, food tastes better, I feel so much better, my house doesn't smell anymore. And that's another thing. When I smoked, I would only smoke in my basement, thinking I was containing the smell to that part of the house. After I had been smoke free for a few weeks, I could still smell lingering tar, even on the upstairs level of my home in my daughters room. My son has asthma and we were frequently refilling his medicine, but after I quit, his attacks soon subsided. I felt like such a shit heel not knowing all these years how much of an effect smoking was having on him, even just doing it in the basement. Well I sold that home after I moved back here to Iowa and bought a new home. This house is 100% smoke free. If a smoker comes over and wants to light up, their ass is going outside, I don't care if it's -30 degrees out, I'm not having it. As for the health affects on vaping and the alleged risk involved, all research I have seen shows the vast majority of the fear mongering comes from studies conducted by cigarette manufacturers. NOTHING has ever been shown to be conclusive about PG & VG which is used to give you the throat hit and to make the "smoke". I had a Dr's visit this last year at the Heart Institute for my Diabetes, I had my lungs X-rayed and the Dr. informed me I now have the lungs of a non-smoker. I for one don't care about all the fear mongering over e-cigs or even if there is a risk. I'd rather put those chemicals in my body, then the over 4,0000 chemicals that can be found in cigarettes.

[Cincikid]

This article from The Rolling Stone sums up both stances well. (Link)
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Governmental Overreach.

Senator Demands Answers From the FDA on Vape Regulations (Link)

A letter from NC US Senator Thom Tillis.

Dear Mr. *


Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about H.R. 2058, the FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015. I appreciate hearing from you.

As you know, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently asserted authority to regulate electronic nicotine delivery systems, including e-cigarettes and vaporizer pens, as “tobacco” products. This regulation goes into effect on August 8, 2016.

In another bizarre example of the Obama administration creating novel definitions to words with otherwise plain meaning, the FDA has decided to regulate electronic cigarettes and vaporizer pens as tobacco products even though they do not contain tobacco. These regulations will apply to all electronic nicotine delivery systems released into the market after February 15, 2007. Since the majority of these products did not exist prior to this date, nearly all of these products will be affected by the new regulation.

On April 28, 2015, Representative Tom Cole (R-OK) introduced H.R. 2058. If enacted, H.R. 2058 would prevent FDA from banning tobacco products that have been introduced to the market after 2007.

I share your concern about this regulatory overreach and agree that these products should not be subject to tobacco product regulations, since they are, in fact, products that contain exactly no tobacco. The out-of-control Obama administration regulatory regime has hurt our economy, as evidenced by the unacceptable economic stagnation we have been experiencing for far too long. If H.R. 2058 comes before the Senate, I will support it.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me again about other important issues.

Sincerely,

Thom Tillis
U.S. Senator