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Post by Senna1Rossi on Nov 4, 2016 15:19:20 GMT -5
I am curious how well these will be inspected.
gonna go get it done soon, so will post it here.
I'm sure it's gonna be 5 minute affair. Nothing big. They just want to check for engine size and for theft.
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Nov 4, 2016 15:21:25 GMT -5
Shameless money grab. It starts out as a "one time fee" then it'll turn into a yearly fee for a sticker a few years down the road plus the incremental price/tax hikes.
Nope. that won't happen with this Bill. No amendments. no sarcasm
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Nov 4, 2016 15:23:10 GMT -5
What I'm wondering, is how many with hopped up scoots are gonna get nailed and told they have to register it as a motorcycle.
If it's from the manufacturer as 50cc or less, that won't happen. They are not going to open up the engine to see if you have a BBK. Just not going to happen. Well, unless you're really stupid... heh
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Post by Senna1Rossi on Nov 4, 2016 15:25:58 GMT -5
I am curious how well these will be inspected. It says a sheriff or deputy sheriff can complete the inspection, plus bringing them to the DMV without mentioning an appointment. That leads me to believe the inspection won't be very involved. They'd need real inspectors/mechanics to do true safety inspections and such. Doesn't mention it any time but for initial registration either.
Sheriff or Deputy for Counties that do not have a DMV office in state of Nevada. Owners need to go to the DMV office for inspection prior to registration.
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 4, 2016 17:42:23 GMT -5
What I'm wondering, is how many with hopped up scoots are gonna get nailed and told they have to register it as a motorcycle.
If it's from the manufacturer as 50cc or less, that won't happen. They are not going to open up the engine to see if you have a BBK. Just not going to happen. Well, unless you're really stupid... heh
That used to be the way it was in Iowa back in the 80's... In fact, that was the reason Honda sold the "IOWA" models of the Spree, Aero, etc.. They were restricted mopeds that only went maybe 25... 30 if you were going down hill. The law used to be limited to 49cc. Well now what they do, is define a motorcycle as any vehicle no matter the displacement or even electrical, that can be shown to be able to go faster then 39mph. So technically, by law in this state, my Blue TaoTao and my Spree need to be registered as motorcycles. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2016 18:07:14 GMT -5
Iowa's laws are about as porked as it gets.
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 5, 2016 1:07:49 GMT -5
Yeah they are, but with good reason. You only need to be 14 to drive a scooter. And man, don't know about around Boone, but in my area here around Spencer and Okoboji and what have you, the 14 and 15 year olds really take advantage of that. Actually I guess now that I think about it, back in the day when I was a kid living in Estherville, seemed like everybody had one back then as well. I remember this kid Jason, he was like 14 or 15... He had a scoot, don't recall what kind it was.. but he took out the muffler washer and did some other mods and you'd see him screaming by the streets of Estherville doing around 45 or 50 all the time. Cops never really said much about it. I am assuming because at the time, kids with scooters was a pretty new scene. As long as they had that mandated flag on it, nobody cared. You can't get by with that now. These guys are dicks around here. They'll actually clock you on the radar.
I have no problem with it if I have to register mine as motorcycles (if I ever got caught). The only issue I have is the flag. Iowa requires mopeds to have that flag, but motorcycles don't need it. So like if I register my Spree as a motorcycle because it does over 40, and am no longer obligated to use the flag, I'll still run into problems with the law chasing me down and bitching that I don't have the flag. So what am I supposed to do?? Tell the cops to follow me and show them I can in fact, get to over 40mph?
Yeah, it's all so stupid. I kind of get where Nevada is coming from with the plates.. but then, if I steal someone's scoot, I ain't stealing it to joy ride, I'm stealing it to strip it down for parts. And you can damn well bet if I do steal it to go joy riding, it ain't coming back in very good condition because Imma gonna rod the shit out of it, so the plates would be the least of your worries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 9:31:14 GMT -5
That would make sense except we allow 14 year olds on public roads on bicycles with no special requirements, including a flag and we have a class of motorized bicycles that need no registration at all. Most of our laws are the result of corrupt politicians and special interests meddling.
Nevada is going to be interesting though, considering how it was before and now.
That 30mph restriction is just stupidly dangerous to anyone riding.
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 5, 2016 15:11:48 GMT -5
Oh I agree completely. 30 is just way too slow for normal traffic. If your in a car in a 35 or higher zone and have a scoot in front of you going at most 30, you'll more then likely speed up and pass them. This happens all the time here in Spencer. That's one of the reasons I got the better carb for my daughters scoot. I cringed knowing she'd be on the road going to Walmart every now and then, where the speed limit is 45. I'm doing the BBK for her, probably over the winter just because I want her to be able to keep up. Haven't decided if I'm gonna do a gear swap yet, thinking I will. That 30mph shit just doesn't cut it in the real world.
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Post by tortoise2 on Nov 5, 2016 16:08:38 GMT -5
For others curious . . Iowa does not have a moped engine displacement stipulation, only a 39mph speed restriction and a Day-Glo safety flag requirement. A Nevada moped clocked exceeding 30mph is "fair game" for numerous citations. Since the Nevada moped "free ride" aspect has been diminished, hopefully more scooter riders will be encouraged to select at least 125's which are more compatible with metro arterials. A Nevada motorcycle license endorsement requires passing the DMV written and skills test, or taking a course . . and obtaining insurance. |
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Post by spaz12 on Nov 5, 2016 17:04:22 GMT -5
For others curious . . Iowa does not have a moped engine displacement stipulation, only a 39mph speed restriction and a Day-Glo safety flag requirement. A Nevada moped clocked exceeding 30mph is "fair game" for numerous citations. Since the Nevada moped "free ride" aspect has been diminished, hopefully more scooter riders will be encouraged to select at least 125's which are more compatible with metro arterials. A Nevada motorcycle license endorsement requires passing the DMV written and skills test, or taking a course . . and obtaining insurance. I've been pulled over numerous times for exceeding the 30 mph limit in Las Vegas, cited, gone to court and showed the judge that it's a moped and every single time the judge has dismissed it. The judges have even laughed about it on 2 occasions. |
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Post by niz76 on Nov 5, 2016 17:24:34 GMT -5
Pretty sure I witnessed an officer in a squad car yelling "Get a Big Bore Kit!" to a scoot that was doing only 35mph in traffic here in FL. HeHe just kidding... I have not witnessed the police even acknowledge a scooter here no matter how fast or slow it going.  |
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Post by larrball on Nov 5, 2016 18:29:04 GMT -5
I live in a collage town and when i say 'Collage' i mean 4 full collages. In Mo. you need a DL and are speed restricted to less then 50CC and 30MPH. Most cagers are O.K. with scooters as in Columbia we have more bike lanes then people using them, but people still speed and speed is what they do EVERYWHERE! 30MPH is not good as the average in town speed is 35-45MPH (that's 45-60mph for most drivers) and at 30MPH you risk hitting "something"(nail,beer can,trash ETC..) if you drive in the bike lane. That's why i upped and bought a good 2T that would get up and go. now i might be speeding past 30MPH and that could get me a trip to see the judge but most of the cop's in Columbia are more concerned about safety then the 30mph rule.. even if they really care. I find that just driveing along with traffic is a good deal, no one passes me and cop's just keep doing what they do best pulling over the person behind me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2016 19:23:19 GMT -5
For others curious . . Iowa does not have a moped engine displacement stipulation, only a 39mph speed restriction and a Day-Glo safety flag requirement. A Nevada moped clocked exceeding 30mph is "fair game" for numerous citations. Since the Nevada moped "free ride" aspect has been diminished, hopefully more scooter riders will be encouraged to select at least 125's which are more compatible with metro arterials. A Nevada motorcycle license endorsement requires passing the DMV written and skills test, or taking a course . . and obtaining insurance. I've been pulled over numerous times for exceeding the 30 mph limit in Las Vegas, cited, gone to court and showed the judge that it's a moped and every single time the judge has dismissed it. The judges have even laughed about it on 2 occasions. The Judges probably felt sorry for you because they thought you were riding a weed wacker, ha ha. Bill  |
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Post by jeff84 on Nov 5, 2016 19:40:56 GMT -5
just today I was doing 50 in a 45 and a cop passed me cause I was slowing him down. I am restricted to 35 in my state
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