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Post by 90GTVert on May 13, 2017 11:56:29 GMT -5
Got a link to the kit? Whenever I've looked in the past, I could find stuff that listed Adly, but if it listed a belt it wasn't something I'd expect to work. I know one listed the same belt that my OR uses for the CPI (shorter than an Adly stock belt). I looked up the item number in your screenshot, but a 780 17.5 30 belt comes up.
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Post by Jwhood on May 13, 2017 11:57:36 GMT -5
Yeah nothing in link about description of belt lenght
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Post by moofus02 on May 13, 2017 12:18:42 GMT -5
Shouldnt this kit work then if there is no differences??  That is the long case Yamaha kit. Belt is to short for the clone motors let alone the Adly |
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Post by Jwhood on May 13, 2017 12:24:00 GMT -5
I hate when there listing aren't right,I seen u got this kit a while back,what engine did you use it on?
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Post by Jwhood on May 13, 2017 12:25:12 GMT -5
What size belt should I be looking for can't take measurements cause I don't have t.d or vari only cases?
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Post by ryan_ott on May 13, 2017 12:43:08 GMT -5
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Post by Jwhood on May 13, 2017 13:04:11 GMT -5
I just contacted them and waiting on response will post there response here soon as I here something, also found longer belts but thickness and width is way off |
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Post by 90GTVert on May 13, 2017 15:54:09 GMT -5
What size belt should I be looking for can't take measurements cause I don't have t.d or vari only cases? Guessing something around 905-915 17-18 28-30. |
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Post by niz76 on May 13, 2017 15:56:30 GMT -5
This is the main issue with using an Adly engine for a Hyper Race build- Can't use an overrange in the CVT. Brent and Moofus covered the issue pretty well one page back... Sure an overrange kit's pulleys will fit in there- Adly's use typical Minarelli parts- but the problem lies in the VERY long belt that they use. An Adly engine is really just a shortcase Mina but with the stretched out real long so you've got that real long belt in there. A Mina longcase has the rear pulley sitting forward a bit with the gearbox hanging off the back so they don't need a super long belt. A shortcase has the rear pulley all the way at the back with the gearbox but it's, well, short- so no long belt needed. Now take that shortcase and add a bunch of length to the middle of it and boom you've got the Adly. (There's some differences with their stator parts too, but won't get into that here). So yes if someone can find a real long belt of the correct width to use in an Adly overrange system you might be the hero of the day! I know I've looked a little bit but haven't really set my mind to it and tried super hard to track down a belt that will work so who knows there might be one out there! So, yeah, this is why I label my homemade "mini overrange" Vari I made as "mini" as although I have modified the vari for full opening and closing travel like an overrange one, and it's got a slightly larger diameter than stock, it's not a true overrange in the sense that I'm using a stock belt and rear pulley. A true overrange should have both an oversized front AND rear pulley along with a longer belt to take full advantage of both better takeoff "gearing" and top speed "gearing" as well. C'mon JW! Find us a real long belt so that we can Overrange in our Adly engines! I'll buy ya a beer if you do! hehe  |
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Post by Jwhood on May 13, 2017 19:49:57 GMT -5
I found a wedged cogged v belt that is 1/2 wide and 35 inch's long,which 905 mm converts to 35 inch's long and 18 mm is like 0.7 some inchs
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Post by moofus02 on May 13, 2017 20:27:47 GMT -5
Found 924 19.5 28
Need to set down with some time and sort this out
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Post by 'O'Verse on May 13, 2017 20:55:47 GMT -5
You could try a 1/2" piece of rope after your cvt is put together. With the proper amount of slack. Lay it down on the ground measure and convert it to millimeters.  |
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Post by Jwhood on May 14, 2017 2:06:40 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on May 14, 2017 6:23:14 GMT -5
Malossi belts that I looked up have to be upwards of 20mm for the lengths we need also. That's too wide. Most of the OR stuff for these will need 17-18mm width. Anyone that's ever played with spacing on the variator can tell you that trying to add 3-5mm of belt width would not work out well there, not to mention being too wide to travel down into the rear pulley. Malossi Belts storage.malossistore.com/news/pdf_prodotti/dim_cinghie_001.pdfI found a Dayco that's ~902 17.5... but the angle is 38. Part # 22355. I think that angle is too steep to consider. Used their dimensional belt finder tool. www.daycoproducts.com/part?part_type%3D30%26effective_length%3D36%26outside_circumference%3D36%26part_number%3D22355If anyone that looks shares where they've looked, it may help anyone else interested in doing some searching. I also looked on Gates' site for a few minutes last night, but I must have missed any simple way to look for belts other than part numbers there. |
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Post by Jwhood on May 14, 2017 9:55:30 GMT -5
Well no luck with g force the guy I spoke to was not very helpful and said they don't mess with canam motors,so back to square one
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