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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2011 8:39:05 GMT -5
Lol, those recluse,s are no joke. I know a guy that was bitten by one and he didnt go to the hospital for too long... Ended up with a hole in his stomach about the size of the quarter that one is on in the pic. You can always tell them by the black violin shape on their back.
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 8:42:57 GMT -5
Just looked it up and found that what I am used to calling a fiddler back spider is the same as the brown recluse.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 29, 2011 8:44:37 GMT -5
Well, my bud said the brown recluse would jump so even he (this is a guy that's owned spiders and snakes as pets all his life, and used to collect wild spiders just to watch them... I've seen him pick up a black widow before) wouldn't step on it. He hit it with something. Hearing the stories and then seeing pics online of what their bites can do is enough to make you wanna keep your distance if a brown recluse is feeling froggy. lol
I ran over so many snakes when I used to cut with a big tractor and a bush hog around a stream and pond area on my grandfather's farm. I do not like to harm animals, but I have no mercy for most snakes. Even the pet snakes from above friend and his brother, I would handle them, but it's not like I ever felt attached to them. It always bugged me that I couldn't read them. Other than being coiled up, I had no idea if they were happy or mad or what. At least I kinda know when a dog is gonna bite me or when it's scared or whatever.
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 8:47:09 GMT -5
Goosey in regards to the chipmunk, when I was about 8 years old we had a chipmunk that from out of nowhere just decided he would come in the house behind me. My dad caught it and we put it in a hamster cage, one of those units you can join together with plastic tubes. He was the best pet ever, would let me take him out a play with him and we tried to put him back outside and just as quick as you would set him on the porch he would run right back in the house. They are comical little rodents that are easily trained to eat out of your hand.
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 8:50:25 GMT -5
I havent had the opportunity to see a recluse up close (in the wild) and dont want to. I have found black widows at work after they did their annual pest control spraying. If they jump then I can see why stepping on them is not a good idea.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2011 8:54:59 GMT -5
It takes more time with reptiles to "read" them like we do our cats and dogs.. I kinda feel the same about snakes but i too love animals. You know ive had a snake, but i have also kept iguana,s for some time. I remember reading about their personalities and traits that can be seen and shown. I thought, "what? I dont think so". Lol, i gotta admit, the snake and the iguana,s all had their own personalities and ways about themselves. One of iguanas would come and sit on your lap if he liked you. Even close his eyes and rub his head in your hand kinda like a cat does when it wants petted. He would even lick your hand. That was weird at first! If he got mad at you he would go potty in front of or even on something he knew you liked and or needed. Or even used allot. He watched everything from up top his 6-1/2 foot tall cage. He was meaner than all get out when we got him (neglect), but he slowly but surly started to come around and after some time ended up being a good pet that i learned quite a bit from. They are pretty smart! Smarter than they get credit for.... Im not much for reptiles at all. I just like a challenge and cant pass an animal in need.
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 8:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2011 9:02:56 GMT -5
Yep, they gotta go in and cut all of the infected area out and make sure they get it all or the spiders venom will continue to rot the skin and tissue away no-matter what the treatment. It has to be cut out and removed. People would save themselves from such bad results if they would go to the hospital asap. I only know this from the info Dr,s gave the guy i know that was bitten. They are some badass little spiders for sure
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 9:06:51 GMT -5
That is horrible, from one little spider so much damage can be done. Just made my fear of spiders perk back up again. Brent I am with you I will run also and I bet I can run faster...
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 29, 2011 9:10:26 GMT -5
:scared: "its a spider!!!! Shoot! Shoot!!! :bfg: "
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Post by marshinman on Jul 29, 2011 9:17:23 GMT -5
Heck I would run and throw the gun at it and not look back.
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Post by Goosey on Jul 29, 2011 9:37:19 GMT -5
Yup. The recluse bite causes the area to rot from the bite out. You might not know right off one bit you till the bite starts to turn. We have them, and I've known people that were bit. I've never seen one. Just makes me want to fog my house In the area we have fox, coyote, wolves( re introduced to the area by the DNR), white tail, mostly harmless snakes, lots of rabbits, rare reports of black bears.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 29, 2011 9:51:58 GMT -5
AFAIK we only have copperheads and the afore mentioned spiders here. Deer ticks carrying lyme disease are never mentioned among dangerous animals, but they probably should be. Animals I see on some sort of regular basis around me are rabbits, squirrels, raccoons, opossums, skunks, foxes, black snakes, turtles, oh and groundhogs. I used to see a lot of snapping turtles when I spent time around the pond my grandfather owned. They aren't really scary because they're still slow like turtles, but you damn sure want to keep away from their mouth. I had one as a pet for a short period of time. He was a baby, eventually escaped to go bite other people or things I guess. lol Wish I had pics of him or the fox I tried to save. I do have pics of a pet raccoon and a bunny I tried to save. Here are the rabbits. One had 2 broken legs and we ended up having to have him put to sleep earlier this week when the mother abondoned it. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=downloadattachmentpage&board=staffstor&thread=298&post=33989Pics of the coon are around here somewhere. There's a bunch of photo albums though so I dunno if I'm that motivated. Just a coon in a big cage. You get the idea. lol
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Post by Fox on Jul 29, 2011 10:58:14 GMT -5
Yeah the coons can be outright dangerous if cornered. One night I heard the loudest sound I've heard up here so far. It was a screeching growling sound that woke up the entire neighborhood. I thought it was a human girl screaming for her life while being attacked by something but it turned out to be two raccoons fighting up in a tree. They eventually fell out of the tree and ran off but it was pretty intense for a few minutes.
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Post by Goosey on Jul 29, 2011 19:35:42 GMT -5
Marshinman, the chipmunk story, my older daughter recently rescued a mouse from the cat. Much like your chipmunk, when she tried to set it outside it ran back into the box she had it in. She decided to keep it in a cage with a wheel and all. It jumped out of her hands and got loose in her room, but showed up back in the cage where the food was a day later. It jumped from her hands and got loose again days later, she had set a pan of water outside her window for some reason, and found her mouse floating in it. I told her it was just one of those "final destination" things. She accepted that theory
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