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Post by GrumpyUnk on Sept 5, 2018 10:58:21 GMT -5
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Post by snaker on Sept 5, 2018 12:37:53 GMT -5
That DAF rig is crazy.
I've had a few of the MTD shift-on-the-go machines Those CVT systems are more like the agriculture equipment designs. They are mechanical variable belt drive (not hydrostatic) but the pulley ratio shifting is controlled by linkage to a handle/pedal rather than engine rpm.
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Post by benji on Sept 5, 2018 19:08:59 GMT -5
one again Benji, you butt in where you don't understand what is being talked about, or just don't understand how a CVT works. the last time I had a ten speed, I think I was about 14 years old. Oh, excuse me. I didn't mean to question your obvious mastery of all things scooter (even tho I've yet to see you even post a pic...[sorry, just saw your 3 pics of a wrecked Chinese bike]) Your knowledge is unquestionably Superior. I bow to you. Your not 14? I assumed you were another know-it-all teenage troll. You act like one.
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Post by gsx600racer on Sept 5, 2018 20:19:43 GMT -5
My CVT shifts. If you watch any of my vid, you can hear it(drop in rpm's while accelerating). I call it a shift because it sounds like a shift. If you look at the slots in the torque driver, there are straight angular slots and there are what I call dog leg shape slots.(2 different angles). This style slot will give you the "shift" effect.
Can hear it here too and have it explained in detail.
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Post by ratdog on Sept 5, 2018 20:21:30 GMT -5
Benji Once again you show your lack of reading or your lack of understanding. I have mentioned my background a number of times. I received my BA from NMU in 1971 and my ME from the U of M in 1973. That means I went to college. And if you work that backward, that makes me a whole lot older then 14. I also mentioned that I taught some programming classes at the CC. (I'm sorry, CC would be Community College). Hard to do if your 14. and I have never claimed to know “everything”, I just know a whole lot more then you.
Now I tried to work with you in understanding what you were calling different events, but you just come back with personal insults instead of trying to work on what you call stuff and what I call stuff.
So please explain how in the discussion of full lock up/ over spin/ full shift out (different names same thing) I have it “Almost completely backwards” Explain to me how once you go beyond the full shift out point “CVTs change ratio”
You know you have a ton of practical experience, and we all benefit from your sharing that. But following me around to attack me, serves no purpose.
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Post by ratdog on Sept 5, 2018 20:28:25 GMT -5
Thanks GSX, it the original thread where another poster attacked me, I suggested that this very event was what he was calling a "shift". rather then trying to work with me on what he was calling a "shift" he when off on a triad about how I should try reading a book sometime instead of posting stuff I knew nothing about.
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Post by gsx600racer on Sept 5, 2018 20:56:38 GMT -5
Thanks GSX, it the original thread where another poster attacked me, I suggested that this very event was what he was calling a "shift". rather then trying to work with me on what he was calling a "shift" he when off on a triad about how I should try reading a book sometime instead of posting stuff I knew nothing about. No worries. Not taking sides. I just shared my point of view and backed it up with some audio visuals.
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Post by benji on Sept 5, 2018 20:58:21 GMT -5
Thanks GSX, it the original thread where another poster attacked me, I suggested that this very event was what he was calling a "shift". rather then trying to work with me on what he was calling a "shift" he when off on a triad about how I should try reading a book sometime instead of posting stuff I knew nothing about. I didn't attack you hahaha I just pointed that you were wrong. You took that as an insult and then got childish. I obviously don't think your 14, I was just saying that to joke about your immaturity. You honestly have no idea what your talking about most of the time, and are rude when people point it out. Take that how you'd like, but it's true.
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Post by ratdog on Sept 5, 2018 21:01:58 GMT -5
So explain how I have iit almost completely backwards.
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Post by benji on Sept 5, 2018 21:03:37 GMT -5
So explain how I have iit almost completely backwards. no. You can decipher that yourself if you read your posts, If you start to understand how a cvt trans works. I don't hold the hands of childish asses.
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Post by ratdog on Sept 5, 2018 21:48:24 GMT -5
“Dude.... You need to stop writing these novels and do some reading haha.”
“Instead of assuming you know more than everyone, consider that you may be (probably are) wrong and that you could learn something on here if you listen and read and learn.”
“Seriously, you should be reading instead of writing. Go learn some shit before you start some shit”
"Your not 14? I assumed you were another know-it-all teenage troll. You act like one."
"I don't hold the hands of childish asses. "
I'm sorry Benji, I didn't think I was being “childish”
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Post by benji on Sept 5, 2018 22:56:09 GMT -5
Those were all responses to your insulting or offensive remarks. Read your posts in this and the other thread; you got defensive and started namecalling in both threads. And btw, your threadjacking now.
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Post by SMALL CC TEK on Sept 5, 2018 23:38:47 GMT -5
Wow that's topic for a new thread , ( Shifting not shifting changing ratios ) lol Just playing with you guys lol
I say changing ratios lol GSXR600racer is right if you have hard hitting motor and you have that slight angled slot you can hear and feel it , it is hard on belts and the more power or harder hitting motor you have the more it chews the belt up lol Then you loose top speed
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Post by katt on Sept 6, 2018 2:25:38 GMT -5
Why are you using a longer belt? In theory, a longer belt would never get the clutch side pullies to the bottom of their travel. Also, at any given rpm, you rear pulley . As i mentioned in the first post belt was proper size 669mm it got stretched in about month to 685mm, perhaps due to clutch jamming, i rebuild clutch and ordered new belt 660mm OD
Here's the video of how it works
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Post by ratdog on Sept 6, 2018 8:02:00 GMT -5
Katt,
Sorry we got completely off track. IMHO, you should be using the correct size belt that the CVT was designed for. I may be wrong, but I think that is a 669-18-30. Once you have the correct size belt, if you still have CVT problems, we can go from there.
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