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Post by katt on Sept 11, 2018 7:50:54 GMT -5
I think i grown out of 50-80cc power range.No amount of mods i make gives me the speed i desire, i want to be a pack leader not a guy on the who being owned by everyone on the road.
Not sure if 150cc GY6 is even going to be much better i am looking for something 150-300cc range, could be a Chinese motorcycle (with manual clutch).
I could probably spend like $500 making 80cc almost as fast as 150cc, but what's at the point its going to be way less reliable and where i live 50cc gives no advantage i am under same legal liability as with 800cc...
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 11, 2018 8:55:31 GMT -5
Get at least a 250cc. IMO you will be disappointed with less. This if from someone that rides a 500cc scooter and would like more out of it. The 150-200cc stuff doesn't cut it for real highway use and IMO if you're going to get a big machine to use as a motorcycle, it might as well be able to go wherever you'd want to take it. If you want to be on interstates and such, I'd recommend going to at least something like a Burgman 400 for a scooter. Motorcycles do more with less displacement, so a 250-300 in those is OK anywhere. If the goal is touring, then up the cc even more for either class.
If all you want to do is ride around a city and keep up with say 40MPH traffic, then a 150 would serve you just fine. I'd still say try to go Euro/Jap like a Yamaha SMAX or something so you have a reliable ride. Just get something that doesn't need work all of the time so you can hop on and go. It pays off in the long run.
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Post by gsx600racer on Sept 11, 2018 10:28:30 GMT -5
So you got a 50cc scooter, modded it some and expected to be the leader ?  Take your pick...(to name a few) Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R – top speed: 186 mph. BMW S1000 RR – top speed: 190 mph. Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird – top speed: 190 mph. Kawasaki Ninja H2R – top speed: 222 mph. MTT Turbine Superbike Y2K – top speed: 227 mph. Suzuki Hayabusa – top speed: 248 mph. Dodge Tomahawk – top speed: 350 mph. |
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Post by scooterpimp on Sept 11, 2018 17:35:01 GMT -5
Besides 50cc scoots ive always ran a Harley, but seem to enjoy the scooters more...& met the Hottest Lady on a scoot..now we scoot together. .yes Tina if your reading this im talking about you! lol.
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Post by chino on Sept 12, 2018 4:33:43 GMT -5
I also have a Harley,and a goldwing,along with several scoots.I have to say though I get the most attention and questions when riding my Ruckus!😎 and besides,who wants to be a leader of a pack of followers? Not me! Lol..😀 Now if it's a race?
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Post by wahlman on Sept 12, 2018 9:26:00 GMT -5
Sounds like you should keep the 50cc scoot and also buy a > 250cc motorcycle. That way you can ride on the Motorway as well. Im about to get one myself. Just saving up my 2 thousand bucks. Plenty to choose from on the used market for under 2 thousands bucks at the moment.
I say hang on to the 50cc scoot because nothing beats it for short city trips or for visiting Downtown where it is hard to find parking. Also I say keep it because you will never recovery the money you invested with the BBK and mods so you may as well hang on to it.
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Post by AtariGuy on Sept 12, 2018 14:08:31 GMT -5
I'm not saying -dont- get a 250cc, but realize they are expensive to rebuild. This coming from a guy who found a roketa mc54-250b parts scooter for a song. I'm already looking at about $750 in rebuild pasts for the engine plus more yet for the bodywork. I'm excited for when it's built though, it'll be a 65mph reliable water cooled 4stroke. Plus i'm considering buying an Indian touring bike yet sometime.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 12, 2018 14:24:21 GMT -5
A good 250+ should last way longer than what we're used to with 50-80cc Chinese stuff though. Ideally, find something not Chinese in great shape and don't touch it for 10s of thousands of miles other than maintaining it.
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Post by katt on Sept 13, 2018 16:18:49 GMT -5
A good 250+ should last way longer than what we're used to with 50-80cc Chinese stuff though. Ideally, find something not Chinese in great shape and don't touch it for 10s of thousands of miles other than maintaining it. I hardly pay my rent at this time no desire to work, hot as hell outside.
This chinese scooter does not bother me at all engine wise, exception are all the small things that were wrong with the rest of scooter, i imagine brand new one would not bother me for years, seen people review on youtube some say they never had to change anything for 50k in chinese scooter. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 13, 2018 17:52:18 GMT -5
I hate to sound like I know anything, because I've never owned a Chinese 250 or worked on one... but I'd have to bet Chinese is Chinese. I am aware of different tiers of Chinese manufacturing, but still some of the same stuff that happens to small Chinese scooters will likely happen to large ones. Plastics won't be up to par, threads will be damaged, wiring and electronics will be subpar, etc... For me, the big scoot was about going wherever I want without worrying about it. Chinese scoots just didn't meet that criteria. I'm by no means a Chinese scooter hater. I still own 4 of them and my favorite scooter ever is one of them. I would never buy any Chinese scooter or motorcycle with the expectation of not having to do more than routine maintenance for 50,000 miles. I'm not trying to discourage you, just hoping you get into whatever your next purchase is with realistic expectations.
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Post by woodini on Sept 14, 2018 2:38:00 GMT -5
No china. Go japan!
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Post by katt on Sept 16, 2018 7:51:57 GMT -5
I must admit 80cc it accelerates better when i sit towards the center, another problem though is my knees get tired that way.
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Post by chino on Sept 17, 2018 3:01:54 GMT -5
Hey katt,where are you located? Do you have stepped license? As in 50cc x amount of time then 150cc x amount of time,250cc ECT ECT.? Just curious.like others have said,buy a used Japanese bike that will only need routine maintenance and keep the bbk scooter to tinker/play with.katt,Iam not trying to be an asshole towards you But I have a question to ask you,You said in a post above ( you have no desire to work!because it's hot outside and you barely get your rent payed! ) how are you going to buy a motorcycle? I wish the best for you in your indever.😎
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Post by chino on Sept 23, 2018 15:15:06 GMT -5
Katt,I want to apologize to you if I offended you ? I really do hope for the best in your search for a bigger bike! How you get it is none of my business!😎 keep on keeping on katt man!😀.
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Post by wahlman on Sept 23, 2018 16:28:20 GMT -5
When it comes to 250cc Chinese motorcycles I would take a pass because there is not enough substantial savings financially to buy one. I mean I see brand new Chinese motorcycles for $2500 but you could get a used 2012 Honda CBR 250 for under 2 thousand with 7k miles or so.
Its a different story when it comes to 50cc scooters. For under $500 you are not going to find anything Japanese in scooters. But when it comes to motorcycles there is not enough of a financial advantage to buy Chinese over Japanese. A used Japanese motorcycle with under 10k miles is a much better machine for the same $2k price.
The Chinese 50cc scooter is a pretty reliable machine, it is battle-tested all over the world. In 3rd world countries those Chinese scooters are a primary form of transportation. But we cant say the same about Chinese motorcycles, it is hard to find research or accounts of people that have ridden them for over 50k miles.
The Honda CBR 250 has been taken to over 200k miles on the odometer without major repairs. That bike has its own forum.
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