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Post by phensley75 on Jul 6, 2020 21:24:28 GMT -5
I need help. My scooter all of a sudden stop starting stop. I turn my key on but nothing. It will not turn over it will not click. Battery is charged and fuse is good. I'm went and tested almost everything I can and there seems to be continuity on everything I checked.
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Post by FrankenMech on Jul 6, 2020 22:46:22 GMT -5
Go to the service manuals on this site and find a manual close to your scoot. Go through the troubleshooting list one step at a time. That is the easiest and fastest way to find the problem. www.49ccscoot.com/manuals/manuals.html |
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jul 7, 2020 12:52:10 GMT -5
Things that fail. Where to start?
The relay needs power and ground. Power from one switch(brake) and ground from the other(starter button). Maybe. You'll have to look at the schematic or wiring diagram.
If you have brake lights that come on with key ON, brake lever pulled, check for power on one side of the relay.
Check for a test light to glow, one lead on the battery + terminal, the other on the wire leading from the starter button to the starter relay. Push the button, and the light should glow if the starter button is supplying ground.
Watch one or more of the youtube videos.
Does the fuel gauge work? If not, given that it did previously, check under the front cover for loose connections.
tom
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Post by phensley75 on Jul 7, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
I found a service manual for my scooter from the link you posted. I can't believe how hard it was to find. Thanks guys! I have some direction now on how to go about properly troubleshooting my electrical issue.
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Post by phensley75 on Jul 7, 2020 16:20:28 GMT -5
Thank you FrankenMech and GrumpyUnk!
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Post by FrankenMech on Jul 7, 2020 18:56:17 GMT -5
Glad you found a manual, it shouldn't have been too hard, the Tao tao is fairly common. The manuals are pretty much the same for a number of years and models. Newer scoots are changing a lot because of electronic engine controls. The manual schematics and trouble charts are a lot easier and faster than playing guessing games for days or weeks in the forum. Stepping through the trouble chart usually only takes a few hours to a few minutes depending on your experience level. Although it is hilarious how some 'experienced' people skip 'obvious' steps and screw up things. People always try to take the easy route through the charts rather than making that 'obvious' test. There are a lot of links on the left side of the screen if you use a computer to access the forum, phones suck at the internet.  |
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Post by Mech Warrior on Jul 8, 2020 21:23:57 GMT -5
^ Knowledge is Power ^
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jul 9, 2020 7:11:00 GMT -5
" Learn or pay. Your choice. "
If you don't know an air filter from a flywheel, you will pay whenever something needs work, but if you know something, perhaps anything, you won't be paying for things you should not need.
" When ignorance is bliss, it's wise to stay dumb."
I doan think so...
tom
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Post by Mech Warrior on Jul 9, 2020 13:15:37 GMT -5
So phen....... how ya make out?
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Post by phensley75 on Jul 14, 2020 10:19:05 GMT -5
Well... I've went through checking all of my switches ( signals, starter, kill switch, brights, brakes). I charged my battery because it was dead. Which led me to believe I've got a problem with my charging system. After it was charged I turn the key on everything powered up on the scooter started. Touched my rear brake and blew a fuse. So I am currently trying to figure out why that happened.
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Post by Mech Warrior on Jul 14, 2020 11:30:03 GMT -5
You have a wire grounding out on the frame somewhere most likely.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jul 15, 2020 11:47:37 GMT -5
I would inspect the bulb in the brake light socket. If it has twisted or has crossed power leads, it will blow the fuse when power is applied(key ON, either brake lever pulled).
If it happens when one lever is pulled ONLY, that lever wiring is suspect, so check that.
The brake lights are used as the power source for the starter relay in many, with the starter button supplying the ground to enable the relay winding. There may be switches on the kick stand, AND the 'kill switch' that may also make the relay inoperable.
Once you get the fuse problem checked out, measure battery voltage, engine off, then start the engine, and rev it up a bit while checking battery voltage. The voltage should increase above 'at rest voltage' when the engine is running and trying to re-charge the battery. If not, you may have wiring or rectifier/regulator or stator problems. The headlight bulb power is variable, depending on rpm.
tom
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Post by phensley75 on Jul 20, 2020 14:30:24 GMT -5
Thanks Grumpyunk and Mech warrior. I replaced my fuse and I haven't blown anymore.... Yet. I've a feeling something is grounding out somewhere.
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