Stage6 PRO Replica VS Stage6 R1200

[mk1jordan]

Hi. I have a gilera stalker with a Stage6 Sport Pro MKII 70cc kit, 24 mm carb, inlet manifold & reeds. I am looking to buy either the Pro Replica or the r1200 but I am not sure which one to go for. I am looking for it to have a nice balance of torque and top speed as I ride in the city most of the time and want it to be fast taking off from lights. Looking for a nice top speed but if it means a significant difference in low end power then it's not worth it for me. I've had it up to 60mph on a quick test ride but quickly ran out of road so definitely had more in it, yet to have a chance to see what it can really do yet . Let me know what you think would be the best for this setup and riding style and if you've had any experience with both the pipes. Thanks!

[90GTVert]

With CVT driven scoots, you don't have to worry about low end (low RPM) power so much. As long as you can get the clutch and CVT tuning right for the powerband of your engine, it will take off quickly. Lower revving combinations may allow for greater reliability. You may also get a little wider powerband and less aggressive hit with some less race-oriented exhausts, which can make the scoot easier to ride and tune. If max acceleration is your concern, then get whatever exhaust is known to make the most power with your cylinder and tune the CVT to work with it.

Check out this article :
www.tuningmatters.com/news/news-stage6-sport-pro-mkii-and-stage6-racing-mkii/

[aeroxbud]

I had the stage 6 street race and pro rep exhaust. Was a great setup.
The sport pro is a very versatile kit. Most pipes would work with it.
If you were not riding in the city I would say the R1200. But it gets old very quickly having something screaming to pull away from every set of lights. It also becomes a magnet for the authorities.
The Yasuni C16 could give you an excellent middle ground. www.pedparts.co.uk/c/asset/Stage6_Sport_Pro_MKII_Blog/yasuni_exhausts.jpg

[mk1jordan]

thanks for the replies. I can get both the stage 6 pipes for the same price and the yasuni is a liitle more. So with this in mind what do you recon i should go for?

[90GTVert]

I haven't been around a scoot with a running Pro Rep or R1200, but I have been around a scoot with a C16 and I have owned a Pro Rep briefly. From what I have seen and heard, the Yasuni is very well made and has a pretty mellow tone compared to some other exhausts. I've pondered the idea of putting a Yasuni silencer on my MHR exhaust to calm down the tone a bit. Maybe aeroxbud or someone else knows how the S6 pipes compare to Yasuni that way.

Looking at the dyno graph and comparing the Pro Rep to the C16, I'd definitely choose the C16 over the Pro Rep. From 9,000RPM and up it is making more power and it doesn't need more RPM to do so. The Pro Rep actually needs a little more RPM to reach it's lower peak number. I think there's a reason that you'll find so many people using a C16 on various cylinders.

[aeroxbud]

The pro rep was a bit louder than my C16. The C16 had a more pleasant deeper tone. Never seen anyone running a R1200 around here before.
The wider power band on the C16 would seal the deal for me. The extra price would be worth it.

[mk1jordan]

just had a look at price for the yasuni c16 and it would cost me £65 more than the pro rep as i would have to get a side stand instead to use that pipe. so i think im going to get the pro rep unless you really think the extra power would be worth it although on the graphs it only shows the c16 having about 0.5BHP more than the pro rep . also i quite like the higher pitched sound of a 2 stroke like a crosser so i will most likely enjoy it more. Let me know your thoughts!

[aeroxbud]

You can get the city 16 pipe. It's basically the same but routed around the stand.
The Pro replica is not a bad pipe. But needs carefully setting up.the

[mk1jordan]

do you know anywhere cheap that sells the city 16 pipe as i dont really want to spend much more than £170 as i was getting both the stage 6 pipes for around this price

[aeroxbud]

Can't find the city 16 anywhere for Piaggio anymore. Looks like it's been discontinued. They only have it listed for the aerox now, sorry.

[808ministroke]

i have owned a pro rep pipe still do , if i could get the same price for an r12000 than thats what i would rather have for sure , the chromhe on these pipes if h go chrome is really nice, i woukd get the r12000 & then you can upgrade to a stronger cylnder when your current runs out.