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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 6, 2021 21:38:56 GMT -5
New-to-me 2013 Taotao Pony "hasn't run in a few years," according to previous owners. I fully expected the battery to be dead, but with jumper cables connected, the headlight isn't on, and starter does nothing - no click, no whir, nothing. Turn signals, instrument lighting and horn work fine, though. There was a package of tube style fuses in the topcase, but I didn't dig into the scoot far enough to find a fuse block, and there was no mention of it the owner's manual. Any help? Thankies.
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Post by captincvmn on Apr 6, 2021 22:38:20 GMT -5
I replied in your thread with picture of the pepto-platipus
Headlights are probably not going to light until the engine spins. Starter could just be the rear brake lever not being pulled enough. There is an interlock switch in my Keeway that was cruddy.
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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 6, 2021 22:53:38 GMT -5
AH! I totally forgot to pull the brake lever! I'm so accustomed to starting my HD in neutral, it slipped my mind. My Vespas were like that, too -pull a brake lever to start. Duh. I'll try it tomorrow.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 7, 2021 12:50:03 GMT -5
Either brake lever should work. It supplies the V to the starter relay while he start button supplies ground. With both the winding is energized and the relay pulls in, connecting the fat cable to the starter fat cable. Fuse holder likely in the battery compartment, or hanging near on a small red wire connected to the + battery terminal. tom
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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 7, 2021 15:06:36 GMT -5
Yep, pulling a brake lever did the trick. Won't start, but it cranks.
To be continued...
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 8, 2021 11:15:53 GMT -5
Now either squirt some fuel down the throat of the carb and crank it over, or, if that fails, pull the spark plug and use it to check for spark. You may drizzle a bit of fuel into the intake via a vacuum line, but don't overdo it. Checking spark, put the plug back into the plug wire and make sure the outside is grounded. It should spark when the engine is cranked. Make sure the KILL switch is in the RUN position. Also, some have kickstand spark killers to prevent starting with the kickstand hanging out. tom
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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 8, 2021 22:25:47 GMT -5
I got it running... sort of.
After cranking a bit, it sputtered a bit, fired up, then died. I did that a few times, and each time, it would fire up fairly easily, but would die almost immediately.
I was told it hadn't been run in ~5 years, so, I pulled the carb out and sprayed the bejeebus out of it with Berryman's. I could smell the varnish before spraying it. (I didn't think this new-fangled gas got varnishy?)
Now, it will fire up, high idle for a few seconds, then drop down to normal idle. However, any twist on the throttle will kill it. Subsequent starts don't go to high idle, just normal idle. If I let sit for a few minutes, it will high idle, and if I twist the throttle immediately, it will rev up for a bit, but eventually die.
I've been searching the forum for this symptom, and the closest I can find is... Do I need to adjust the valves?
EDIT: Yes, it has fresh fuel.
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Post by captincvmn on Apr 9, 2021 5:06:51 GMT -5
Is it a two stroke? No valves then. Is the air filter back on the carb after tinkering? Sounds like too much air not enough fuel.
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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 9, 2021 6:28:50 GMT -5
Is it a two stroke? No valves then. Is the air filter back on the carb after tinkering? Sounds like too much air not enough fuel. 4T, air filter is back on.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 9, 2021 12:02:21 GMT -5
Two places to look, both inside the carb. Pilot jet and float bowl orifice. Did you see light through the pilot jet? If you did not, or don't know, it is a place to inspect & clear. I use a strand plucked from a wire brush. Did you check the orifice built into the float bowl wall, where the 'enrichment byvalve' dips into a opening? If plugged, you won't get and 'choke' function to help a cold start and high cold idle. Did you check that you get full-diameter fuel flow when suction is applied to the vacuum line on the petcock? Bettadonut you have a carb or fuel flow problem. Also check the standpipe filter screen on the petcock inside the tank, and for crud inside the tank clogging the screen and hassling fuel flow. tom
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Post by FrankenMech on Apr 9, 2021 18:32:49 GMT -5
Check the air filter to make sure it is clean and not blocked.
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Post by DarthGrind on Apr 11, 2021 22:33:33 GMT -5
Sorry for the long time for an update. Air filter/airbox is clear. Valve clearance is good, too. Plenty of fuel coming through to the carb. Pulled the carb out again, and gave it a good dousing with Berryman's, along with poking a wire through all the orifices I could. Still no joy.
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Post by leaferreefer on Apr 12, 2021 5:22:41 GMT -5
im having the same issues too. it appears that you helped rule out the dirty carb since you cleaned that twice
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Post by mikehailwood on Apr 12, 2021 6:11:27 GMT -5
Two places to look, both inside the carb. Pilot jet and float bowl orifice. Did you see light through the pilot jet? If you did not, or don't know, it is a place to inspect & clear. I use a strand plucked from a wire brush. Did you check the orifice built into the float bowl wall, where the 'enrichment byvalve' dips into a opening? If plugged, you won't get and 'choke' function to help a cold start and high cold idle. Did you check that you get full-diameter fuel flow when suction is applied to the vacuum line on the petcock? Bettadonut you have a carb or fuel flow problem. Also check the standpipe filter screen on the petcock inside the tank, and for crud inside the tank clogging the screen and hassling fuel flow. tom
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Post by mikehailwood on Apr 12, 2021 6:13:56 GMT -5
Did you do EXACTLY as GrumpyUnk suggested regarding "light through the pilot jet" and "float bowl wall"?
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