Impact Driver Trouble

[vacationer]

Got a new impact driver to remove my variator nut, but it's not quite working. The pulley as a whole doesn't even turn when I'm attempting to remove the nut. Driver just makes a grinding sound.

The driver does 180Nm and I'm using a universal socket because it's what I have on hand. Nut looks a little rusty too.

Any clues as to what exactly I'm doing wrong?

[scooter7878]

Idk what u mean by universal but if it's one of those ones that grab any size nut they will rob the power from the impact. Also if it's a impact driver that u have to use a adapter to get a socket in that also reduces power greatly. The best is a impact gun that has the square drive built into the gun the quick chuck style ones aren't really made for a lot of power line that not to say it can't remove it but those nuts are pretty hard to get off if they haven't been off recently I have a DeWalt 20 volt lithium driver like that and I've had a few it wouldn't remove and some that gave it trouble. Once it's off than the next times usually are no problem. The more adapters or extension anything in-between the socket and gun all reduces the amount of impact it delivers

[scooter7878]

Naraku makes a variator tool it's 13 bucks on ncy store it's worth it bc it's a lot smaller than bringing a impact around so if u get stuck on road u can change a belt or something without the impact

[vacationer]

For the time being, I'm gonna stick with the impact approach since I can get a new one sooner than I can get the tool (however, I'll have to get the tool eventually, that's for certain).

How's this one look?: www.amazon.com/dp/B08K9MRX8Q/ref=vp_d_pbd3attr_TIER2_cmlr_lp_B07255QCN4_pd?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B08K9MRX8Q&pd_rd_w=tVYiI&pf_rd_p=d62ddd0f-cec9-4897-a694-a4c377158677&pf_rd_r=6SWY05XWSTN4GMWD7E4Q&pd_rd_r=f83b9b08-7c79-4e0c-ba81-0c3660f5c4ac&pd_rd_wg=OTiLL

[claydoh]

That's more than enough. I have www.harborfreight.com/7-amp-corded-12-in-impact-wrench-61173.html Harbor Freight corded impact that works great. More than strong enough. Might be worth it if you have a store nearby.

Heck, I usually use this dinky 12v one www.harborfreight.com/automotive/impact-wrenches/electric-impact-wrenches/12v-lithium-ion-cordless-14-in-impact-wrench-tool-only-57242.html
and it works just as well, though you do need to let it hammer a little bit to get it tightened properly. Easier for me than dragging a long extension cord or two out to my parking lot. Easily fits in my tool bag if I want to, though I do have the special tool for roadside belt changing.

[vacationer]

No store Amazon prime it is

[steve1297]

No reason to ever have to remove that nut without an impact, when harbor freight sells impacts for so cheap.
Also, make sure to tighten them back with an impact, an happy riding

[scooter7878]

Jul 19, 2021 17:29:40 GMT -5 vacationer said:

For the time being, I'm gonna stick with the impact approach since I can get a new one sooner than I can get the tool (however, I'll have to get the tool eventually, that's for certain).

How's this one look?: www.amazon.com/dp/B08K9MRX8Q/ref=vp_d_pbd3attr_TIER2_cmlr_lp_B07255QCN4_pd?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B08K9MRX8Q&pd_rd_w=tVYiI&pf_rd_p=d62ddd0f-cec9-4897-a694-a4c377158677&pf_rd_r=6SWY05XWSTN4GMWD7E4Q&pd_rd_r=f83b9b08-7c79-4e0c-ba81-0c3660f5c4ac&pd_rd_wg=OTiLL

. I can't speak on that brand but yes it looks big enough and that's what I was talking Abt where the socket connects u loose way less power with that the quick connect Ines are good for a lot of stuff and will take a variator but off but like I said I've had one that a DeWalt 20 volt max with the quick chuck that couldn't remove it

[scooter7878]

And also I have removed plenty with a impact but with any round seal like that there's the rare occasion that the vibrations from the impact cause the seal behind the variator to start leaking the naraku tool is 13 bucks why not just use that instead of carrying a impact around

[pinkscoot]

Jul 19, 2021 18:43:43 GMT -5 steve1297 said:

No reason to ever have to remove that nut without an impact, when harbor freight sells impacts for so cheap.
Also, make sure to tighten them back with an impact, an happy riding

You can tighten it back at your own risk, torquing it with a torque wrench is the safest method. You know that it's tight enough without over torquing and stripping you crank.

[aeroxbud]

Seen a lot of cranks damaged over the years because of impacts. Damaging the crank by over tightening, but also having the nut come loose.
I don't even own an impact anymore. The only thing I used to use it for was undoing clutch nuts.

[steve1297]

Jul 20, 2021 8:27:12 GMT -5 pinkscoot said:

Jul 19, 2021 18:43:43 GMT -5 steve1297 said:

No reason to ever have to remove that nut without an impact, when harbor freight sells impacts for so cheap.
Also, make sure to tighten them back with an impact, an happy riding

You can tighten it back at your own risk, torquing it with a torque wrench is the safest method. You know that it's tight enough without over torquing and stripping you crank.

Probably good advice. I just put my gun on the lightest setting when putting it back on. I've put both the variator and clutch nut back on with a ratchet, and had them come off before.

[jbjhillbilly]

Jul 20, 2021 18:05:57 GMT -5 steve1297 said:

Jul 20, 2021 8:27:12 GMT -5 pinkscoot said:

You can tighten it back at your own risk, torquing it with a torque wrench is the safest method. You know that it's tight enough without over torquing and stripping you crank.

Probably good advice. I just put my gun on the lightest setting when putting it back on. I've put both the variator and clutch nut back on with a ratchet, and had them come off before.

In addition to torquing to correct level, I put a little blue Loctite on. Cheap insurance.