Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Mar 19, 2024 13:13:42 GMT -5
Here’s the transmission… something left it’s mark. There really is not much salvageable about this thing. Let’s just add a new transmission to the ‘imma need to buy this’-list…    |
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Timmer
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Posts: 128
Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Mar 19, 2024 13:18:02 GMT -5
And so far i’ve pulled the bearings from the transmission, both are past their lifespan.
The bearings on the crank are shot too. The ones holding the bar to mount the engine to the frame sound weird too, just have to figure out how i.m going to remove those, as the bar is still stuck in one of them. Might need to find a hydraulic press to use.
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Post by aeroxbud on Mar 19, 2024 15:57:34 GMT -5
I have just replaced those bearings on the engine mounts. What a pain to do.
One had rusted to the bar. Broke a puller trying to get it off.
In the end I used a crank puller to get it off. A press would be much easier.
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Mar 28, 2024 11:38:29 GMT -5
Not that much new here, given time divided between family and 2 jobs. I managed to sneak in some time today, stripped the frame down to the last bolt. If i'd have known, that taking the stock keylock off, was that much of a  ... Mot***F***! those bolts with a coned head and nothing to grab onto, yeah, great job there Yamaha. (I get it, anti theft and such...) Took the frame to the carwash and had a few go's at it, and dropped it off at the beadblaster/painters today.  Tried to get the rims done too, but couldn't find a local shop to take the tires off, and i don't have those levers to do it myself (also don't have the time today), so the wheels will either be done at home or be brought in later for blasting/painting. |
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Post by hippo008 on Apr 1, 2024 13:46:20 GMT -5
Nice work being done here. Nothing wrong with a slow mover, everybody has had a project like that now and again. Heck all of my projects are slow movers. I work on them for enjoyment only!
How much did you pay for bead blasting and powder coat? That’s a pricey service in my neck of the woods.
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Apr 3, 2024 14:08:05 GMT -5
Nice work being done here. Nothing wrong with a slow mover, everybody has had a project like that now and again. Heck all of my projects are slow movers. I work on them for enjoyment only! How much did you pay for bead blasting and powder coat? That’s a pricey service in my neck of the woods. I don’t have the bill yet, but i got quoted around rougly €200-300. I told them it’s not a ‘i need it done yesterday job’, so we’ll see. i also have to source a ton of new parts (engine, frame, cooling, controls,…), have the case welded, rebuild the engine, … It’s just a thing to keep my mind occupied and have a project to forget the stress i get from work (and kids  ). |
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Apr 14, 2024 12:57:44 GMT -5
So, managed to get a look at the blasted frame before painting, as i wanted to see if there were any issues, and once painted they’d be covered up again. I think it looks good.  Also went shopping, got anything from gaskets (i think i got all of them for the whole scooter  ) bearings (trans, engine mounts, crank, steering,…), oil seals for the whole thing, new electric harness, new cdi, waterhoses, nuts and bolts, half the starter mechanism,…  I obviously told the wife i lost the receipt  During the weekend i had to split my time between work, good weather and playtime with the kids, and in the evening i had some time so i tackled the front suspension. Took it all apart, cleaned the whole thing out, as the only thing providing some damping was a few drops of oil, some crud and the spring. Got new oil seals, dustplugs (is that what they’re called in english?) and some 15W fork oil. I now they should have 10W, but i always found the front fork a bit soft on a nitro, so maybe this will help that.   Also wasn’t pleased with the rust on the fork clamp, so since i had it outof the frame and the legs were already gone, i managed to clean it up. I also already removed the bearing seat, as the bearings i found when disassembling the frame were shot, so i’ll replace those too. Once everything was stripped, cleaned, and degreased, i repainted the clamp, and i’m quite pleased to be honest with the result;   I also found a company that does aluminium welding, and the owner is willing to let me ask one of his employees to weld my case, but they’re only in the workshop on mondays (they do on-site installs throughout the week) and my next free monday is either the 22nd before noon, or maybe the 29th, so once that gets sorted i can start rebuilding the engine. Also hoping the frame gets painted soon, so it can all come together  I know i won’t have it finished next week, but bit by bit i’ll get there  |
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Apr 18, 2024 13:03:36 GMT -5
Getting exited, got this from the paintshop today. Should be able to pick it up, hopefully, on saturday  Also, it’s not powdercoated, but sprayed. I know this is not as strong, but they use automotive clear coat, so we should be good.   |
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Apr 19, 2024 11:50:59 GMT -5
How much did you pay for bead blasting and powder coat? That’s a pricey service in my neck of the woods. it came out to be €325. That’s degreasing, blasting, primer, paint and clear coat. It is a bit higher than what I expected, but not overkill. Given the time spent on this, i can accept that price. i’m going to pick it up tomorrow morning  |
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Timmer
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Posts: 128
Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Jul 26, 2024 15:02:44 GMT -5
So, this build has been on hold for a moment. Work, summer vacation, me getting corona (not the beer...), and an engine case that's giving me more headaches than i'd like to admit. I've been looking for a new case for over 2 months, and i either find cheap worn out cases, or overpriced 'profesionally rebuild' cases  . I've also found a few potential good ones, but like 8hrs oneway drive from me, and most don't want to ship as they fear i might be a scammer... Go figure... If anyone has an engine case, that isn't cracked or has the carters drilled out, i'm all ears, preferably in Belgium, but i'm willing to buy if people are willing to ship. Maybe Lucass2T , you have any leads? Eindhoven isn't that far from me, and it's a roundtrip i can do in half a day easily. // Start rant Currently a bit annoyed by internet ads... either they sell something and don't ship, or they sell something that's from the Ovetto's (AC mina hori with drim brakes) and tell me it's for disc brakes, or they ask €600, or they have you driving to the Netherlands and never show up...  // End rant I really need a new engine case... |
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Post by Lucass2T on Jul 28, 2024 6:35:43 GMT -5
So, this build has been on hold for a moment. Work, summer vacation, me getting corona (not the beer...), and an engine case that's giving me more headaches than i'd like to admit. I've been looking for a new case for over 2 months, and i either find cheap worn out cases, or overpriced 'profesionally rebuild' cases . I've also found a few potential good ones, but like 8hrs oneway drive from me, and most don't want to ship as they fear i might be a scammer... Go figure... If anyone has an engine case, that isn't cracked or has the carters drilled out, i'm all ears, preferably in Belgium, but i'm willing to buy if people are willing to ship. Maybe Lucass2T , you have any leads? Eindhoven isn't that far from me, and it's a roundtrip i can do in half a day easily. // Start rant Currently a bit annoyed by internet ads... either they sell something and don't ship, or they sell something that's from the Ovetto's (AC mina hori with drim brakes) and tell me it's for disc brakes, or they ask €600, or they have you driving to the Netherlands and never show up... // End rant I really need a new engine case... No leads, but if you'd find something on 'marktplaats' or via other ways somewhere near Eindhoven I'm willing to help. |
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Aug 19, 2024 15:23:20 GMT -5
Ok, i may have found something:    It looks quite ok, but i can’t for the love of god get the gears out. The bearing was rusted. They turn (they didn’t when i got them), but they won’t come out. I’ve been hitting the axle with a hammer, nothing. I’ve heated it, WD40’d it, and for now i’ve put it away overnight so the WD40 can hopefully penetrate it. I really hope i can get this one to work, as all the taps for the screws are either good or decent, no fractures or grinding of the lower engine,… Ok, someone in.the past ground out the rear of the case to accommodate an overrange transmission… But for €50, i plan on giving it a go. Also, if anyone has any ideas what i can try to get the part out, remeber; sharing is caring… |
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Post by aeroxbud on Aug 24, 2024 17:08:45 GMT -5
Any luck with it?
If heat won't work. I guess you will have to try and press it out.
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Timmer
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Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Post by Timmer on Aug 24, 2024 17:20:17 GMT -5
Not yet… i’ve heated it to the point the inside of the bearing started turning blueish… i’ve spray liquid compressed air onto it, in hopes to freeze and shrink the axle… Ealier today i’ve tried pressing it with a vice. I had it wedged between some wood pieces to not damage the case, and the wood shattered. Going to try and find someone who has a hydraulic press, see if that changes it, or find a local motorcycle store or something. otherwise i’m going to have and source another case… again  |
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Post by 190mech on Aug 25, 2024 5:51:36 GMT -5
What about breaking off the bearing cage, then work all the balls to one side , remove the balls and work out the shaft with the inner race still attached.. Heck, this might be a stupid idea, but thought I'd throw it on the table!  |
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... Mot***F***! those bolts with a coned head and nothing to grab onto, yeah, great job there Yamaha. (I get it, anti theft and such...)
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) bearings (trans, engine mounts, crank, steering,…), oil seals for the whole thing, new electric harness, new cdi, waterhoses, nuts and bolts, half the starter mechanism,… 
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