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Post by kirah65 on Jun 19, 2024 23:53:24 GMT -5
Could this be the issue for me as well? I have also put in an order for a temp gauge and some clear fuel lines, as well as a new vacuum petcock just in case, tho I dread having to do possible carb / jetting work carbs are a god dam enigma I might just have to take it some place or just count my losses and sell it and get something different, but the dam market is flooded by cheap Chinese 4 strokers so i would not even know where to look
dont dread carb tuning. once you get a temp gauge, it makes tuning through the whole throttle range so much easier. a tachometer makes transmission/CVT tuning a lot easier too.
i would not sell that bike. you don't realize the potential of that type of engine. go on youtube and search "oahu moped cruise", you will see a shit ton of DIO type engine scoots.
I know, but I need something more reliable, like I think at this point I put over twice the value of the scoot in to it tinkering is fun and all. But it's my main means of transportation, and it seems like no one here can work on it proper, just generic motorcycle repair shops. And I just can't afford to keep taking it to them, as the troubleshooting alone is like 280 bucks.
I can try my self but quite frankly I have no idea what I'm doing sure YouTube videos forums and google helps, but there is almost no English or Swedish-speaking videos of people working on kymcos let alone the zx and while some knowledge is universal, but this seems like an oddly specific issue
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Post by kirah65 on Jun 20, 2024 9:47:47 GMT -5
Also, were anyone able to tell if my carb was a Gurtner clone or not? So I know when I go and pick up a jet kit
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Post by oldgeek on Jun 23, 2024 6:15:50 GMT -5
 [/url] Looking at the picture you provided I see the connection to the air box is not completely on. Any leakage there or any inconsistencies in airflow will cause it to run lean. 2 strokes are very sensitive to airflow issues. That does look like a stock style carb to me. |
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Post by kirah65 on Jun 23, 2024 8:10:45 GMT -5
[/url] Looking at the picture you provided I see the connection to the air box is not completely on. Any leakage there or any inconsistencies in airflow will cause it to run lean. 2 strokes are very sensitive to airflow issues. That does look like a stock style carb to me. [/quote][/div]
Hmm, I did spray some starting fluid around the air box and mount and did not notice any changes in engine noise, so I don't think it leaks, but I will push it closer and see if it helps while I'm waiting for parts.
I have also checked to see if I can trade it in, in case I can't get it to run right, and I can, and I have the options for either a MotoCR Big Max 4stroke carbureted (New name for PGO scooters)
Or something like a Kymco Super 8R 50i Fuel injected 4stroke, I have also been eyeing a Honda Zooma (EU name for the ruckus). I just really like the "naked" style and knowing when it eventually meets the ground, I don't have to deal with a bunch of broken plastic fairings. Since with all vehicles, especially scoots/motorcycles, it's not a question of IF, but When.
What do you think about those outside of your personal preference for 2 strokers, but they are sadly a dying breed and new 2 strokes are not really a thing even finding used ones is becoming more difficult since in Sweden to drive a 49.9cc scoot you only have to be 15 with no license or anything so naturally most are really heavily used and abused with questionable modifications
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Post by oldgeek on Jun 23, 2024 9:34:52 GMT -5
What do you think about those outside of your personal preference for 2 strokers, but they are sadly a dying breed and new 2 strokes are not really a thing even finding used ones is becoming more difficult since in Sweden to drive a 49.9cc scoot you only have to be 15 with no license or anything so naturally most are really heavily used and abused with questionable modifications |
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Post by pinkscoot on Jun 23, 2024 12:34:54 GMT -5
If you replace it go with fuel injection and the bigger the better. Fuel injection is low maintance no carb to screw with. My preference is anything made by Piaggio, Honda or Yamaha. You will be happy and they are heavily supported. No searching for a part and coming up empty.
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Post by kirah65 on Jun 23, 2024 13:07:52 GMT -5
If you replace it go with fuel injection and the bigger the better. Fuel injection is low maintance no carb to screw with. My preference is anything made by Piaggio, Honda or Yamaha. You will be happy and they are heavily supported. No searching for a part and coming up empty. Yeah, hence why I'm looking at the injection version of the Honda zooma/ruckus a metric crap ton of parts and no carb tomfoolery tho I will probably have to get that used since I have yet to find a Swedish retailer for it (if anyone know of any let me know)
The only direct injection versions I can get new is either the Kymco Super 8R 50i, Kymco Agility City 16+ 50i or the PGO/MOTOCR R9 SP 4T EFI EURO 5.
I know that kymcos are known to be pretty good quality being Honda light made in Taiwan, no idea about their 4 strokers tho
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Post by aeroxbud on Jun 23, 2024 13:36:21 GMT -5
If you replace it go with fuel injection and the bigger the better. Fuel injection is low maintance no carb to screw with. My preference is anything made by Piaggio, Honda or Yamaha. You will be happy and they are heavily supported. No searching for a part and coming up empty. I would say any Piaggio made in Italy. Most small Piaggio scooters are made in China now. The build quality is shocking. |
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Post by kirah65 on Jun 23, 2024 14:21:05 GMT -5
If you replace it go with fuel injection and the bigger the better. Fuel injection is low maintance no carb to screw with. My preference is anything made by Piaggio, Honda or Yamaha. You will be happy and they are heavily supported. No searching for a part and coming up empty. I would say any Piaggio made in Italy. Most small Piaggio scooters are made in China now. The build quality is shocking. As for Piaggio there are only two models available, the Piaggio LIBERTY 50 and the Piaggio LIBERTY 50 S
Edit there are 3 available found the Piaggio Zip 50 S Euro 5 not sure if its fuel injected tho but the specs I found says so.
Are those any good, especially the zip as it's currently on sale the liberty 50 is a bit too rich for my blood sadly at least new
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Post by aeroxbud on Jun 23, 2024 15:57:28 GMT -5
The smaller Piaggio scooters are really built down to a price. The quality of manufacturing now it's in China is not very good.
I would rather have an older model zip than a new Chinese built one. The zip has always been a budget bike. It's also very small.
The problems I had with my Euro 5 typhoon really put me off. I was warned before buying one about the build quality. It's a shame because when it ran properly, it was great.
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Post by kirah65 on Jun 25, 2024 16:22:47 GMT -5
Ugh temp gauge arrived DOA, but I tried every single main jet from 80 installed originally up to 92 any higher, and it bogs down at Wot, and it still dies I think it's time to sell it off or trade it in and hopefully someone with more patience and mechanical knowhow can dig in to it proper it is a solid engine, but it has some sort gremlin that I just cannot get rid of
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Post by thach2264 on Jun 27, 2024 17:06:53 GMT -5
Problem Solved!!! It’s the freaking CDIs. I’ve the same scooter and the same f symptom, got some help from Tyler Rose on fb with the cdi type and wiring, done. Ran for 20miles and got home and still running, one kick it started and no need to give any throttle at all. Get any cdi that look like this: a.co/d/033L8jOw. Mine only cost $10 ![]()  |
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Post by aeroxbud on Jun 28, 2024 5:39:48 GMT -5
That's great you have it sorted. It's very hard to test a CDI, to know if it's good,or not. But it's great you found one to match the bike.👍
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