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Post by downer88 on Apr 12, 2012 21:29:01 GMT -5
Hi, I am trying to get a scooter going. It will not turnover. I by passed the solenoid and the starter turns over but it will not start with button. I am holding the left break when trying to start it. I have power at the switch and the gas gauge moves. Any help or test procedures would be great. I am new to these cycles as you can tell.
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Post by jmkjr72 on Apr 12, 2012 21:56:10 GMT -5
did you check for spark
did you check to see if your getting fuel
was this scooter running before
did it just come out of storage
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 21:57:37 GMT -5
your scooter?
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Post by downer88 on Apr 12, 2012 22:54:51 GMT -5
Yes it is my scooter, good question though. We cannot test spark because it wont turn over by pressing the button on the handle bars. I wonder if there anything I could test with my meter??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 23:09:38 GMT -5
okay.
forgive me but i want to be methodical on this...i have learned over the past 20 yrs its really the best way.
So with the key on and the left brake lever fully depressed and you hit the start button you get no turn over...but if you bypass the sol. it spins over....is this correct?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2012 23:10:29 GMT -5
i will check back in 30 mins or so for your response.
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Post by larry001964 on Apr 12, 2012 23:13:06 GMT -5
I'm wondering if it's does this with both hand brakes or just the one ? Possible safety failure ?
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Post by downer88 on Apr 13, 2012 0:32:41 GMT -5
Correct, Key on Left or even levers pulled nothing happens. By-pass solenoid and the starter will spin.
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Post by larry001964 on Apr 13, 2012 0:42:39 GMT -5
Hummmmm thinking maybe the emergency kill switch, or perhaps a bad ground... does any lights dash, tail work with the switch ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2012 2:17:41 GMT -5
yeah im with larry on this..first thing to check now is the emergency kill switch on the right control assembly....this happened to me on my bike and i had the seat bucket out checking spark and all..and it was the kill switch the whole time...and ive been wrenching for 20 yrs so if it can happen to me it can happen to anyone...and i am not shamed to admit it was the damn kill switch the whole time...that time lol
if the kill switch is set to 'run'...its a bad brake switch OR bad solenoid or...very rarely...both. we can take a meter and test those based on how the kill switch position plays out.
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Post by downer88 on Apr 13, 2012 7:35:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the tips..will give them a try tonight after work and let you know what we find.
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Post by downer88 on Apr 14, 2012 13:08:32 GMT -5
UPDATE: We do not have any brake lights, bulbs good. How do we test the kill switch?
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Post by downer88 on Apr 14, 2012 13:15:29 GMT -5
also we the horn works, gas gauge works, one blinker, no head light.
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Post by larry001964 on Apr 14, 2012 13:22:04 GMT -5
In many cases the headlight runs off the AC generated by the stator when the bike is running.. so it would not work unless the engine is running... If the horn works then the frame is getting ground.. But that don't mean every thing is, Ive seen several grounds ran to the frame... The kill switch you will need a ohms meter to check and make sure its passing current when its suppose to...
I think what I would do is to back track the ground from the tail light, that will probably lead you to the problem, as the tail light should work even if the kill switch is in the kill position..
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Post by downer88 on Apr 14, 2012 16:41:43 GMT -5
Good news!! found the hot wire to the tail light shorted out. Repaired it. I by-passed the safety start switch on the left handle and now I have it running. Looks like I will need to replace the safety brake switches on the handle bars. Thanks for all the help!! :clap:
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