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Post by teddy554 on Jan 23, 2013 20:22:27 GMT -5
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Post by Fox on Jan 23, 2013 21:09:18 GMT -5
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Post by teddy554 on Jan 23, 2013 21:20:30 GMT -5
thanks Fox
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Post by reveeen on Jan 24, 2013 2:23:53 GMT -5
The pity of it is: there is no parts interchange with anything, it's just a lump of junk.
A vertical Zuma swap is a possibility.
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Post by bobkat on Jan 24, 2013 8:09:01 GMT -5
well...i guess i have a "lump of junk and a piece of crap", however with that said i'm still looking for an performance exhaust system that will work. any help?? please.. and thanks teddy for your help so far.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 24, 2013 9:45:51 GMT -5
:welcome: bobkat. There are no performance pipes made for that engine that I know of. Really not much out there for it. About the only performance part I know of is a big bore kit, and it's only 2mm oversize. It's PFS part # 169-185 and costs $50. That would be my choice if I were to do anything to that engine.
I think there are 2 reasons you probably won't find a pipe. First, it's not a really popular engine platform. Second, a good tuned pipe will often kill bottom end power. Since your scooter has a chain drive and not a CVT, it would probably be miserable to ride with a serious tuned pipe because it would have to struggle through the low RPM dead spot if it ever wanted to accelerate. You don't really have a lot of options to tune the transmission that I know of. All I could think of that would be reasonable to do is to try and find stiffer springs for the clutch to help it engage later.
Sorry you have to show up to see this engine being called such things as it has been. It can be fine for a daily rider if you don't demand a lot of speed, but it is not a good choice for a performer. Unless you enjoy fabbing your own parts, you'd be better off to find a minarelli (1e40qmb) powered 2T scooter or even a GY6 50 4T to play with. Parts are MUCH more abundant for both of those.
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Post by bobkat on Jan 24, 2013 11:20:42 GMT -5
thank you....thank you, I guess my search has ended. Only 1 more question, with stock exhausts really inexpensive, is there a way to modify for slightly more power [noise as well] my stock exhaust? again suggestions are welcome....details would be needed. I saw something similar on the tech segment of the forum. BTW, I am just a daily rider, not a racer, again just looking for a tad more zip. thanks to everyone again,,,,,bobkat
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 24, 2013 12:08:18 GMT -5
If the stock exhaust is not restricted, you'd probably just make more noise and that would be about it. The only one of these I've been around in person had an all steel, 1 piece, exhaust. You'd have to cut it apart and mess with the innards, then weld it back up. Sometimes you can take a long drill bit and try to drill in through the tailpipe to see if you can open something up a little. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The BBK would be much better investment of your time and money than playing with the exhaust IMO. If you don't wanna spend much or any money and just wanna play a little, maybe try checking squish and compression and see if you could remove the head gasket (use copper spray) for a little boost. Go over your carb and see if there's any room for improvement with jetting or adjustments.
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Post by 50chinkschinkin on Mar 1, 2017 23:07:24 GMT -5
If the stock exhaust is not restricted, you'd probably just make more noise and that would be about it. The only one of these I've been around in person had an all steel, 1 piece, exhaust. You'd have to cut it apart and mess with the innards, then weld it back up. Sometimes you can take a long drill bit and try to drill in through the tailpipe to see if you can open something up a little. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The BBK would be much better investment of your time and money than playing with the exhaust IMO. If you don't wanna spend much or any money and just wanna play a little, maybe try checking squish and compression and see if you could remove the head gasket (use copper spray) for a little boost. Go over your carb and see if there's any room for improvement with jetting or adjustments. Would there not be different gearing possibilitys sprockets clutch springs. There are a few machining shops near me who have done 4 wheeler gears for me
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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 2, 2017 8:22:37 GMT -5
Where there's a will there's a way.
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Post by benji on Mar 2, 2017 19:37:47 GMT -5
What kind of scooter is it in? Maybe there's a version w a different motor available? W the only thing available being a 2mm "big" bore, I'd suggest putting your time/money/energy into a motor swap. A 1e40qmb will be much easier to find parts for and tune.
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Post by 50chinkschinkin on Mar 3, 2017 1:38:08 GMT -5
What kind of scooter is it in? Maybe there's a version w a different motor available? W the only thing available being a 2mm "big" bore, I'd suggest putting your time/money/energy into a motor swap. A 1e40qmb will be much easier to find parts for and tune. [br The motor is a morini also used in the aprillia sr50 and suzukis tb 50. So there is 70 and 90 kits available. Being chain driven has its perks and downs. I litterally just bought one yeaterday with 109 original miles. And it is a wheelie machine and powerband is awesome but seems like im restricted to 35 mph
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Post by 50chinkschinkin on Mar 3, 2017 1:39:17 GMT -5
Where there's a will there's a way. Is wheelie game a normal thing on other stock 2 strokes
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Post by benji on Mar 3, 2017 2:06:49 GMT -5
Kinda depends on the bike. My wife's jog keeps tryin to lift the front wheel up on me w little effort on my part n it's stock.
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Post by 90GTVert on Mar 3, 2017 7:03:11 GMT -5
The motor is a morini also used in the aprillia sr50 and suzukis tb 50. So there is 70 and 90 kits available. Being chain driven has its perks and downs. I litterally just bought one yeaterday with 109 original miles. And it is a wheelie machine and powerband is awesome but seems like im restricted to 35 mph You are literally the first person I've ever heard report such performance or enthusiasm out of these scooters. A friend used to have one of these chain drive Geelys. My stock Triton was significantly quicker and faster, and it sure didn't do wheelies. I think when he got his girlfriend on the back he was stuck around 25-30MPH tops. My stock TaoTao 4T can carry my 300lb to 30-35MPH cruising. I've never worked on one, so I can't say what they are capable of. Maybe there are some other chain drive engines that are decent, but most people want to get rid of them if they want to go fast.
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