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Post by dennis5150 on Oct 15, 2013 18:31:25 GMT -5
Unfortunately Real Gas is 70mi away here,I've replaced many fuel pumps , I believe because the ethanol retains moisture and on older cars it loosens anything that maybe in the tank like rust, I just did a 1998 ford f150 with duel tanks, this was the 4th time the owner had it done since moving where only ethanol gas is available. If I know the Scoot will set for a week or more I run it dry and or dump the tank along with the Chain Saw .
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Post by jmkjr72 on Oct 15, 2013 22:10:17 GMT -5
Let me ask any of you this
Do any of you treat your fuel.with heet or another fuel line deicer in the cold months
If you do guess what you are adding the alcohol that you are complaing about
Why do.you add heet it helps suspend the water in the gas where if you have pure gas the water will settle to.the bottom.of your tank where it will help.rust it faster and sit in your pickup
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Post by Scooters To Go on Oct 16, 2013 10:24:09 GMT -5
Here is a link to some info on E10 fuel, and how ethanol changes how fuel takes on water. www.fuel-testers.com/expiration_of_ethanol_gas.htmlI can say from personal experience that ethanol has affected more carbs this year than I have ever seen, for the Chinese scooters especially. The ethanol is also messing up the cheap Chinese vacuum fuel pumps. To my understanding, the ethanol is absorbed into the rubber of the fuel components and causes it to expand, but when the ethanol is removed and the rubber has a chance to dry it contracts to a smaller size than it started. And here is a link that explains what ethanol does to rubber. www.fuel-testers.com/ethanol_problems_damage.html
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Post by 70ccsuperyates on Oct 16, 2013 10:51:07 GMT -5
Jmkjr you hit the nail on the with that one anyone ever read a bottle of heet?? He is right it helps suspend the water and keep it from settling
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Post by dennis5150 on Oct 16, 2013 13:22:59 GMT -5
Yea the gasoline already has all the additives it needs and some it doesn't, they put additives in for cold climates , the ethanol just means your getting 10% less fuel.Premix for the chainsaw seams to hold up okay but I don't chance it, it's a PITA to tear apart every season, far easier to run it dry.
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Post by dancehost on Oct 16, 2013 21:36:21 GMT -5
pure-gas.org/ This list gets updated regularly (even prices) for local PURE Gas. Enjoy, Dance Host
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Post by dancehost on Oct 16, 2013 21:45:43 GMT -5
My fuel gage and carb was stuck from previous owner letting it sit for 6 months. I took apart carb 5 times before it would work. After running pure, the gunk dissolved on gage and it started to work!
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Post by Upgrayedd on Mar 5, 2014 21:20:34 GMT -5
excellent resource! i use that site regularly when i take trips. Pure Gasoline does indeed get better MPG than E10, E15, or E85. The reason is simply that gasoline has more BTUs (energy) in a given amount than ethanol does. the E85 flex-fuel cars are well known to get around 40 percent less miles per gallon when running E85 vs when running straight gas. I run straight gas all year in my van, except for once a month during winter i fill up with E10 (the ethanol helps run out any condensation) and a couple times during the rest of the year i get e10 as well. too much water (it doesnt take much) and it will separate out and get nasty (like in carbs when sitting up over winter) the difference in mileage in my dodge caravan is roughly 10% (better mileage with the straight gasoline) the ethanol does serve its purpose for helping dissolve water into it, and then run it through the engine, and out of the gas tank. i like to add a bottle of gumout fuel sys cleaner along with a tank of e10 when i do pump it, to give it a little extra cleaning kick.
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Post by dan50 on Mar 6, 2014 7:14:13 GMT -5
E-10 only has a shelf life of 90 days. The Ethanol separates from the gas, leaving a layer of pure Ethanol and a layer of gas that is less than 85 octane. Plus the rust issues that alcohol accelerates. The Auto manufactures already said that if the government goes to E-15 or E-20 the car companies will NOT honer any fuel related work on warranties. So there is input into not increasing the amount of Ethanol. Also there is a large consumer movement to remove Ethanol from gas. The corn based Ethanol raises food prices. Many food products have doubled in price since 2007 when E-10 began by law.
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