Tao tao thunder 50 headlights

[50ccthunder]

So on one light it ha's white and green and on the othe side blue and green how I hook this up for both light to work thanks for any help

[90GTVert]

I don't know what bulbs it uses or if it's setup for single or dual filament, but something like this may work.

49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/8534/dual-headlight-system-modification

[50ccthunder]

35 watt and single filliment

[90GTVert]

It may not be able to light 70W well, combining them. I'd prob try making the low beam just the low beam light and the high beam would be both lights or the easier way to brighter lights... trying to find a brighter replacement for each (45-55W).

[mrvaliante]

I've been a longtime lurker and decided to join specifically for this thread. I have a 2014 thunder and am wondering about simply modding the toggle switch for brights so that both lights are wired to the high beam setting, meaning, no headlights on at all until you switch the toggle to bright, then both come on. Would that be a bad idea? I took my headlights apart once because some of the leds were going out but they're working fine again for some reason. I noticed that both headlights are EXACTLY the same. Only difference is that the driving light has a metal half circle blocking the beam. I unscrewed it and took it off and reassembled the headlights and when switching from dim to bright, they both project exactly the same brightness. Sooo is this thing able to handle two 35w bulbs at the same time? I think it would look cool with just the leds on during the day and then dual beams when I need headlights. I've been all over the internet and there is little discussion about the tao tao Thunder. I LOVE my scooter and would love to meet or at least speak to other people who also own a Thunder. They're spiffy little things.

[90GTVert]

It should be able to power 2 35W bubs. I use 1 65W in my TaoTao ATM50. It may reduce charging power though.

You could wire it for both lights at once, but I'd think that could be bad at night. You'd either have to have only LEDs so you couldn't see or be annoying oncoming traffic with the high beam on full time.

I'm not sure how the LEDs are wired on those, but if they only come on with the headlights now, you could wire them to be on whenever the engine is running. If the headlights are on all of the time, then you could put a toggle switch inline before the dimmer switch. Then you'd have full time LEDs and the high and low would work as usual when the toggle is on or you could switch them off so only the LEDs were on. I've installed a wire between hi/lo beam wiring before with a switch in the middle to allow both lights to come on when the switch is on. You have to be careful using switches though. It's not good to have any switch that you can't use with your hands on the controls for the headlights. On/off is OK, because you really shouldn't be turning them on and off while driving at night, but it's not really safe to have to reach or a hi/lo or dual headlight switch. You may be able to accomplish something similar with a relay. A SPDT relay. I think it could be wired to the high beam output from your switch for the power and switching signal, it would need a ground, and then 1 terminal would go to lo and one to hi beam. Then you should have low beam on low and both beams on high. If you just wire both to the hi/lo switch, both will be connected and you'd have both on at all times so this would at least allow you to shut the high beam off cars start flashing their lights at you. You'd still need a separate switch to turn the headlights off totally and allow just the LEDs to run that way though, again unless your scooter already has an off switch for the headlights.

[mrvaliante]

Thanks for the welcoming! The way the thunder is setup is, when you turn the key to ignition the LED's come on but no headlights. Once it is cranked, the right headlight comes on. So the LED's are always on. When you switch to the "bright" headlight, it shuts off the right lamp and turns on the left one. I'm wondering if the toggle switch for the brights just disconnects the right lamp and connects the left lamp to power. If that is the case, I can eliminate all the headache by disconnecting the right lamp from the toggle and splicing it to the wire for the left lamp so that when you're driving, neither come on until you switch the bright toggle on which would then make both come on. Basically it would just make the bright toggle switch, a headlight ON/OFF switch. As a matter of fact, I have nothing better to do today so I'm going to take a peek into that and I'll come back with some answers. They're not bright enough to bother anybody. My only concern is pumping too much wattage through but if you have an ATM50 (essentially the same thing) and are using a 65w bulb with no charging issues, then 70 combined watts should be fine considering it would only be at night. It would also keep the right bulb from burning out faster from being on during the day which is unnecessary.

[90GTVert]

That should work. The headlight switch just a selector with one input and two outputs. If it's in one position it sends power to the low beam and if it's in the other it sends power to the high beam.

[mrvaliante]

Awesome! Well I may have to check that out another day. I have a house full of children and no longer have time to figure it out. Much less think or function like a normal human... ugh. that's another story though. lol

[mrvaliante]

Alright so I figured it out! I didn't have to spend anything either and all I needed was a Philips and a knife.
So this is what I did to make both headlights stay off and just the l.e.d. trim lights come on and then both headlights come on when you hit the bright switch:
First, take off the front housing by removing first the small shield up top via two screws on the opposite end facing the seat. Then remove the remaining screws (8 I think) on the same side and THEN 1 big Philips screw under where the top shield was so that the whole front fascia comes off. It's connected by a plug you'll want to disconnect. Just 1.
All of the modding will be done on the plug end of the fascia. You'll see a green wire, white wire, brown wire, and blue wire. There are 4 green wires connected to each of the 4 lights in the fascia. The brown 2 wires go to each l.e.d. light. The blue one goes to the "bright" or left light and the white one goes to the "driving" or low beam. (I put quotes over these because they're both identical lights)
That paragraph is just for your knowledge. You don't need to know it though. I just find a limited amount of info on the net for TaoTao Thunder's.
On the plug connected to the fascia (not the rest of the scooter) you'll see only brown, white, blue and green. Jimmy out the white connecter, cut the tip off, strip it about a quarter inch, jimmy out the blue one, twist the white one to the blue one, secure the blue connector back in. Now you have a 3 post connector.
To optimize the performance, unscrew the headlights from the fascia so that you can get into the headlight housing. You'll notice on the "low beam" light, there is a metal half circle screwed to a post in front of the headlight. Remove it immediately. Reassemble everything and test it out. I love it. I think it should have been made this way to begin with. I never used highs or lows because they both sucked but together they get the job done very well. I know this may drain power but the added benefit is that you're not driving with one headlight on all the time so you have time during day drives to charge up the battery better than you normally would. This only took me about an hour to figure out and do so it should only take about 20-30 minutes start to finish. I hope this helps the rest of you Thunder lovers out there with your visibility.

[90GTVert]

Thanks for providing the details!

[mrvaliante]

I love to share finds! Especially when I can't find information on how to do them. Thankfully this one is fairly simple.

[50ccthunder]

I am going to do this to my 150 I habe. Currently in am in the process of changing the front end of my scoot to look different with different headlights