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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 7, 2015 15:57:08 GMT -5
As far as the hard-to-start part, have you adjusted the valves at all? Sorry niz76, I havent adjusted the valves. I was told by the previous owner that they were adjusted right before I bout it from him (6 Months ago) but based on the condition of the bike, I take that with a grain of salt.
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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 7, 2015 16:09:19 GMT -5
Video is embedded on the first page.
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Post by Elektrey on Jun 7, 2015 16:27:00 GMT -5
yeah charge your battery up first and see if it will e-start then...
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Post by Silar on Jun 7, 2015 16:32:29 GMT -5
OMG! Please make sure you put your cover back on before you charge your battery and try it again! The starter gears will jam against the kickstart gear and hose everything up if you do not have your cover on! ASK ME HOW I KNOW!!
Some people have cut an old cover so that the starter gear is in the starter bushing on the cover..
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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 7, 2015 16:32:39 GMT -5
I left the charger on the battery overnight multiple times and it still didnt fix the issue.
Keep in mind the condition of the clutch too, I kind of has a stranglehold on the drive belt at the moment becAuse of the stiffness of the spring. I'll post another video with the battery hooked up to a jumpstarter.
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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 7, 2015 17:52:01 GMT -5
Well, i put the cvt cover back on and took a video, but it had no sound for some reason...
Basically, the engine was turning over multiple times while hooked up to the charger, but still no start. It seems like i need aa new battery, but this is NOT what's keeping the electric starter from working.
Someone suggested to check for spark while us in the electric starter. Is it possible that my spark plug fires with the kickstart by not with the electric? I'm going check for this after work tomorrow.
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Post by Elektrey on Jun 7, 2015 18:05:19 GMT -5
on an AC CDI system I don't see how thats possible.
I think its possible with a DC CDI system as the cdi gets its charge from the battery in that system.
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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 7, 2015 18:15:42 GMT -5
My CDI is one of the 4/2 prong boxes, and its a blue aftermarket "racing" cdi. I think the prongs indicate whether it's DC or AC?
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Post by Elektrey on Jun 7, 2015 18:17:52 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on Jun 8, 2015 10:33:18 GMT -5
Use a multimeter and check your voltage or if you don't have one you can prob get an auto parts store to check the batt for free. Once you know if the battery is good, you can figure out if there's another issue. Some help with the e-start and batt checks : 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/647/start-troubleshooting?page=1
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Post by Fox on Jun 8, 2015 11:03:49 GMT -5
First off, you should never start the engine with the belt cover off. The starter Bendix can get damaged. That's the small gear gizmo that spins the variator drive face. Put the cover on with two bolts and that's good enough for testing. The starter system is working but it's not spinning the engine so you need to do a couple of simple tests to see what's going on. First thing I would do is to hook the scooter up to a car battery via a set of jumper cables. No need to start the car. I hook the red+ from the car to the red+ side of the scooter battery. Then I hook the black from the car to the exhaust pipe for a good solid engine ground. Then press the start button. If it cranks the engine fast and the scooter starts then your scooter battery is done and needs a new one. If it still struggles with a jump from a car battery then the starter relay or the starter motor itself is bad. To check if it's the relay: With the jumper cables still hooked up, touch any metal object between the two poles on the relay. I use a wrench but a screwdriver or any metal object will work. The bridged contacts will send voltage to the starter and it will spin. You don't even have to have the key switch on for this test but if you want the engine to start turn it on. This is called "bypassing the relay" If it spins fast and the engine starts then that means your relay is toast. If it still struggles when bypassing it then you need a new starter motor. That all said, my money says it's either your battery or the starter motor itself. Starters are cheap. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=GY6+starte+relay&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XGY6+50cc+starter.TRS0&_nkw=GY6+50cc+starter&_sacat=0The starter relay is just a big switch. You would burn the start button up if you ran the voltage through it so the start button triggers the relay and the relay closes allowing the full battery voltage to flow to the starter. Relays go bad. I replace them cause they are cheap. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.XGY6+starte+relay.TRS0&_nkw=GY6+starte+relay&_sacat=0
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Post by meloabreuu on Jun 11, 2015 14:10:26 GMT -5
So, all along, despite my local scooter shop telling me my battery was Strong enough to start a motorcycle a few weeks back when i had them test it, the only peoblem with the electric start was..... My battery. I got a new one and everything was fine. Thank you to all who posted things to try and help me.
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