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Post by bigdogthunder on Oct 19, 2016 18:19:11 GMT -5
storing the two scooters in a shed for the winter.
Any info so they will start in the spring
should I store them with a full tank of fuel ect..
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Post by gsx600racer on Oct 19, 2016 19:45:32 GMT -5
There are different approaches that you can take.
1, Drain the tank and carb bowl dry.(if storing in a climate controlled condition)
2, Drain tank and fuel bowl and replace with ethanol free fuel(race gas or trufuel).
3, Treat the fuel with a ethanol treatment additive & a fuel stabilizer and top off tank. Run engine for 5 to 10 mins to get the treated fuel in the bowl of the carb
Seeing that they are being stored outside, id suggest #3 option.
With winter there are temperature swings every day as well as the moisture from melting snow in the air. The temp changes will cause condensation inside the tank seeing they are vented. Keeping the fuel tank full will help with the moisture build up inside.
Most importantly, remove the battery and store it somewhere indoors and put on a trickle charger once in a while. You really do not want to leave the battery in the freezing temperatures for long periods of time.
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Post by just1artist on Oct 21, 2016 12:13:06 GMT -5
Store the putt-putt for winter? Bwahahaha never! Lmao 😂
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Post by bigdogthunder on Oct 21, 2016 21:16:59 GMT -5
Not that I want to I have two problems cold and snow
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 22:08:06 GMT -5
For cold, the answer is layers and don't buy the cheap stuff, for the snow, here's some inspiration ")  My other solution is regular gas/stabil, use it for all my small engines |
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Post by dan50 on Oct 21, 2016 22:20:10 GMT -5
As gsx600racer said about option number 3. Fill fuel tank, use Sta-Bil or Seafoam to keep gas from phase separating (gas & ethanol separate after 60 to 90 days). Full tank keeps condensation from forming (in the winter always keep your cager over 1/2 tank to cut down on condensation and therefore fuel line freeze).
Keep battery inside. Cold will destroy a battery if not being constantly used. A Battery Tender JR. is recommended to keep the battery in great shape (do not store battery on floor, especially cement as that will ground them and drain the power).
A coat of polish on the chrome and plastic (do not buff out) will help protect them.
If possible, raise the scoot on a platform or something to keep the weight off of the tires. Changes in temp can cause tires to change pressure a lot and if sitting in one spot for a long time, the tires may develop flat spots.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 22:35:41 GMT -5
I now curious to see how a 50cc scooter would perform in Iowa's sub-zero January days...
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Post by dan50 on Oct 21, 2016 22:41:20 GMT -5
Just richen the mixture, use a fuel additive, let the scoot warm up for a few minutes and most importantly dress really warm with a full face helmet to keep your face warm. Any exposed skin will get frostbite in a short time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 23:26:56 GMT -5
I snowshoe so I'm pretty geared up for winter fun, I can ride comfortably at 40 with just two layers, although the bare steel saddle seat can get a bit chilly ")
I'm just old enough to remember the glory days of sub zero and carburetors...
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Post by Cincikid on Nov 17, 2016 12:48:27 GMT -5
Also when storing the battery Keep it off the ground and concrete, they will drain the battery.
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 17, 2016 21:18:51 GMT -5
The way I'm doing mine, is I have a Deltran Battery Tender jr. www.amazon.com/dp/B000CITK8SI have it connected with a terminal harness to the battery www.amazon.com/dp/B000NCOKZQAs for the gas tank, put racing fuel in it. On my 2 stroke, I have it filled with a mixture of 1/2 VP110 1/2 91 Premium with 32:1 Pro Honda GN2 Injector oil. The other 2 stroke, I could care less, doing an engine swap in that one anyway, so I just tossed it in a corner and forget about it. The 4 stroke scoots each have 1/2 VP110 1/2 91 Premium but are only filled maybe 1/4 way. After I start them in the spring, I will fill with 91 Premium after I have them started and warmed up. Edit: My scoots are in the garage, not exposed to extreme cold. |
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Post by FrankenMech on Nov 17, 2016 21:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by dan50 on Nov 17, 2016 23:27:42 GMT -5
eclark5483, you should store your scoots with a full tan of gas along with Seafoam or Sta-Bil. A tank that isn't full will develop a lot of condensation and will rust the top of the tank. Full tank=no air to form condensation or promote oxidation.
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Post by eclark5483 on Nov 17, 2016 23:46:52 GMT -5
The reason I don't, is I don't want to run that high of an octane in it. And, given that it won't be exposed to cold, condensation shouldn't be too much of an issue. My main concern is the carb gunking up, that's why I'm using racing fuel. Once I start them up in the spring and warm it up, I'll fill it the rest of the way up 91 premium, which will dilute the racing fuel down to I'm guessing somewhere around a 95-96 octane. Also, I'm not worried much about the tanks on them since they are just cheap TaoTao's. The 2 stroke (Spree) on the other hand, is one that I show more care in. That's why I have it filled to the brim. I didn't plunk down almost 3 grand restoring a vintage scooter just to mistreat it and promote tank oxidation. On the TaoTaos, I can just easily grab a new one for $50. www.eagleatvparts.com/product_info.php?products_id=92681 |
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Post by dachurchpcguy on Nov 19, 2016 17:26:53 GMT -5
I plan on riding all winter, it's been in the 20s a couple rides so far. I just got a nice leather jacket from Jafrum and I ordered a Vito's Jet Kit. Cold starting is a bit of an issue, I'm hoping the Vito's kit does the trick.
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