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Post by katt on Apr 14, 2018 18:43:30 GMT -5
Scooter fall on the side and now wheel is aligned improperly, do i need a professional alignment services or just do it by myself, any howto's?
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Post by katt on Apr 14, 2018 21:59:36 GMT -5
From what i understand this is what needs to be adjusted. Fork Crown i losened it and turned the wheel and it more or less become straight. However i noticed that right side of "crown" that holds the shock is not perfectly aligned when i trying to inserts bolts, i guess i need to replace it, where can i buy that piece?
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 15, 2018 11:46:40 GMT -5
I believe the part is called the 'triple tree', and would be available from the manufacturer. You might find another vendor who has a duplicate from another company.
I would check that the right fork tube itself is not the problem. It appears to be tweaked towards the rear from its normal position. If that's all that is bent, you can remove the axle, the wheel, and then umbolt the fork from the tree. You may have to remove the cap at the top to be able to wiggle it out of the clamping area. Forks are available on line at varying prices. You want one that is the same as the original. You can use a straightedge on the lower part of the triple to see if it is bent or square. If bent, you can only replace it. I would not trust one that was bent back into position a whole lot. I think they are cast iron, and thus brittle, and yours, if bent, may already have hidden cracks that just might decide to split at the worst possible time... going around a curve with heavy oncoming traffic is NOT the time to find out. Be safe. tom
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Post by katt on Apr 21, 2018 2:11:25 GMT -5
Man you right i tried to align it and no its bent badly did not know it can get damaged so easy from dropping the scooter one time. 1. Does it make sense to buy used one how do i know someone did not have same issue as me and then just bent it back...?
2. How do i find exact match its labeled HX-1 or HX-I ?Closest matches i found used ebay or newamazon will fit? New one on Amazon seems to be closest match however: 1. it has the cut right under the thread that mine does not have 2. Mine has wider thread (guess i could use spacers if needed.)
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Post by KSR Moto on Apr 21, 2018 5:27:24 GMT -5
Buy a new one since it doesn t cost a fortune, bending it back into shape can only cause metal fatique on already weak part
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Post by KSR Moto on Apr 21, 2018 5:28:40 GMT -5
I dont know where you can find exact same part but dont buy anything that doesnt fit
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Post by katt on Apr 22, 2018 8:18:24 GMT -5
No new exact replacement available anywhere online that i checked, perhaps will have to order from China If i go to local scooter store i for sure will be sold a used part for more than cost of new part online. AAAARGH what an epic fail its 1 inch shorter at shocks. I think i found exact match but its $130 + $30 shipping, i cannot afford to pay that much i bough scooter for $300, investing $160 more on a piece of metal is lame. What should i do?
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 23, 2018 14:06:11 GMT -5
With ebay you at least have a guarantee that it will fit. You can inspect closely for indication of collision damage, looking for nicks, cracks, dents, scuffed paint, etc. You can measure and use tools to assure yourself that all is aligned properly upon receipt. I'd make a note to the seller that you will be examining for evidence of prior damage, and will consider the item 'not as described' if it IS damaged. ebay should stand behind you on that... I think. Once you install the used fork/tree, you should be able to tell immediately if it is aligned properly and tracks straight as it will want to wander in one direction or the other when you are riding on straight level road. IOW, you'd have to lean all the time if it were bent or deformed, I think. You can also set the machine on the ground, both wheels, and sight along the side of the rims to insure they are parallel(or not) tom
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Apr 23, 2018 14:21:33 GMT -5
I looked closer at the images, and came to the conclusion you have to measure the length of your frame, top to bottom, where the fork bearing races are mounted. IOW, there are two bearings holding the tree in place, and allowing rotation. The distance between the upper and lower are the constraints that will determine if the new one will work. You have to be able to install the lower ball bearings, set the fork in place, install the upper ball bearings, and then tighten the upper race down onto the balls. If the threads allow(go down the fork far enough you can tighten/adjust the ball bearing properly) then the fork should work. You noted the threads were continued further down the fork than the Amazon fork. That's ok, IF you know you will be able to tighten the bearings and adjust properly before running out of thread. Measure, and you should be able to figure it out. The excess threaded area will not hurt/help you at all if you can get your bearings adjusted on the new fork. tom
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Post by katt on May 1, 2018 21:26:01 GMT -5
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Post by scootnewb on May 1, 2018 21:33:08 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by GrumpyUnk on May 2, 2018 12:07:49 GMT -5
Isn't it fun getting all those ball bearings to stay in place while you try to put things together? I would have suggested using wheel bearing grease, blobbed onto the upper race, to hold the balls while fitting things together. Never mind, I looked closer at the pics and saw they were contained. Some motorcycles have 'free' balls which must be 'globbed' to stay during assembly. Do make sure you put some grease on the bearings to lower friction and to prevent or slow rusting.
Glad to hear it's back together and working. Organizing the wiring is a challenge with a capital "C".
Be sure to flex the handlebars from side-to-side with the covers off so you can see that no wires are getting pinched or binding. tom
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Post by benji on May 2, 2018 15:43:30 GMT -5
On the front forks that use those loose balls, I flip the scooter upside down after draining the gas (I don't worry bout the rear end, haven't seen it leak) and put the fork in the frame/headtube halfway. Then put the balls in with some grease to hold em, then slide the fork in the rest of the way. The fork helps the balls stay in place. After the bottom bearings are put together, you can flip it back over (while holding it together) and do the top bearings.
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Post by katt on May 2, 2018 16:56:32 GMT -5
Actually only 3 balls fall out the bearing and after i put them back they were holding more or less in place probably because of old grease left over that was holding them somewhat, i put new grease and that sealed them in place for good.
Took it for a ride today and it preforms pretty well.
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Post by katt on Jun 15, 2018 12:47:40 GMT -5
Man not again i fubard so silly today had it on the side stand cuz was too lazy and then it run out of gass i mean had a air vubble so i come back outside and start reving punping gas with starter and then i revved just a bit just holding gas leaver and it jumped forward and fall down on the side. Was not that bad of a fall however my brand new brake handle is bent not and alignment is off again this makes no sense like what metal they make this scooters with its soft as cooper.
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