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Post by matlock on Sept 11, 2019 12:00:47 GMT -5
i had a performance pod filter on my 72cc scoot and 95 main jet first day it ran great loud fast no issues then i tried a bigger jet and a smaller and tried to find the largest i could put with no bogging it was a 95 i ened up ewith what i orifgiannlly had then i put together and it wasnt hitting top end rpm when i put stock air box on it worked ok but took a long time to rev while sucking in air so i made a hole in stock air box the hole was way to big it did same as pod filter so i taped it akl shut throughlty then it wotrks ok again but very slow reving i hear it sucking air pod filter too much air stock not enough so now im gonna try a mini pod filter and if it dont work i order a new srockj air box im gonna put it on and see ho wit revs and drill holes as needed what do you think about this? any ideas
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Post by ThaiGyro on Sept 11, 2019 12:36:43 GMT -5
WOW! matlock...I cannot apologize. Your English, spelling, grammar and punctuation is simply kindergarten.
I am not being mean...but you are asking for help. Try learning your own language.
That said...You have made too many changes to allow anyone to properly offer a single response.
Go back to the settings and air box you had when your scoot ran well. Give that as a start point. Pod filters with no air box make tuning very hard, and fuel economy shit.
I have a 49cc engine, that makes near 9 hp, and gets near 95 mpg. All near stock, except pipe, carb and ignition. What are you looking to do?
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Post by matlock on Sept 11, 2019 13:16:09 GMT -5
gyro if you got a mouth full of shit keep it to yourself i was in a hurry
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Post by ryan_ott on Sept 11, 2019 16:46:31 GMT -5
Just stick to a stock air box with the snorkel removed. Main jets are not always the answer there are also pilot jets and needle changes that can affect performance.
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Post by mattyslimz on Sept 11, 2019 18:57:12 GMT -5
If you insist on running a pod filter than definitely get a wider array of jets. Type in “VM16” jets in Google or wherever and a you’ll find what your looking for. I’m am running a 35mm 45 degree POD filter from UNI on your same engine, stock crank and Stage 6 Streetrace 70 kit. It’s running a 95 main with a 42 pilot (slow), needle dropped 2nd from bottom, if that helps.
I think all ThaiGyro was saying was to put your sentences into more clausable statements that way people will better understand what it is that your talking about. I’m sure he meant no hard feelings, this board has more of a respectable nature than most and most wiuld probably like to keep it that way.
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Post by harleyracer59 on Sept 11, 2019 20:00:48 GMT -5
gyro if you got a mouth full of shit keep it to yourself i was in a hurry damn man, gyro is an awesome guy. he's only trying to help you. if people cant read and understand your description of the problem, how are they supposed to help you? also attitude towards a well liked guy on this forum like TG, might not get you much help from any body. even if they could read your thread... just saying.  good luck solving your problem.  |
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Post by matlock on Sept 11, 2019 20:17:01 GMT -5
keep pushing harley your almost in his asshole
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Post by matlock on Sept 11, 2019 20:21:48 GMT -5
thank you slims 190 mech and 90GTVERT are the only real respectable people and really all i need thanks slim for the info your right thats what i end upp doing removing snorkel its like an animal
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 11, 2019 21:59:42 GMT -5
There's really no need to be disrespectful to each other. It's always best to ask questions in a clear manner. Typing one big run-on sentence with lots of errors and a total lack of punctuation and capitalization is similar to calling up a tech hotline and trying to explain your problem while taking big bites of food. The goal should be to make it easy for someonte to understand your issue. On the flip side; if you can't read it, sometimes it's better to just move on. That said, I definitely don't like seeing people cursed at here and I don't give many warnings for that sort of thing.
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Post by ThaiGyro on Sept 12, 2019 10:19:06 GMT -5
I said I would not apologize "matlock". But I do. I am an engineer, former racer, race mechanic...and a teacher/coach and mentor.
Your question a good one. Your sentence structure is very hard for a 63 year old to "see". I do have great frustration with that. My bad.
That said...pod filters are still not better than an air-box. Yes, you can make it work. No, it cannot beat a proper air box setup. Glad you got things sorted.
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Post by matlock on Sept 12, 2019 14:24:05 GMT -5
thanks gyro
i will be clearer from now on any ideas what roller wieght to start withb while tuning my 72cc 1pe140qmb adly rt50 malossi big bore 72cc stock variator and clutch start high and go low or high then low for weight tuning?
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Post by geoffh on Sept 12, 2019 15:06:15 GMT -5
Matlock,if money is available I would recommend a variator upgrade before you buy any rollers they use different size rollers than stock,I would also change the stock clutch springs so it kicks in at a higher rev point,two mods that made a huge difference to my scoot.
Geoff
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Post by ThaiGyro on Sept 13, 2019 14:34:59 GMT -5
I am a fan of changing only what is needed. Though, as geoffh stated, a new variator is a likely next step...try what you have. You will get a better feel. If you do not have a tach, I suggest getting one. I install cheap ones often. You can "see", feel and hear what is happening with your scoot power train.  |
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Post by matlock on Sept 13, 2019 20:28:10 GMT -5
thank you everyone i fixed the electrical problem too it was a black wire and a white wire both pinched in the top part of bike frame where it connects to motor real high on top hidden my Brutta saw them
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