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Post by magoconnor on Nov 4, 2019 16:14:14 GMT -5
Hello.
Do any of your guys use foggin oil when putting the bike for the winter?
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Post by ThaiGyro on Nov 7, 2019 1:54:54 GMT -5
Hi mag'o...given your ID name and your reference to "foggin" oil, I might assume you are from Ireland? Or Irish living elsewhere?
I am not young, but not heard of foggin oil. Fookin', yes.
When I lived in the North-West US, I simply used a mixture of low octane petrol, (Gasoline) and naptha, (just ever so slightly heavier than petrol) and maybe some mineral spirits. Say petrol/naptha/spirits at 75%/15%/10%.
If you have carbs, run that to ensure the float bowls have some. If injected...just put it in your tank.
You can buy "Stabil" or "Seafoam" or other products...expensive! Just find the above...really no need for mineral spirits unless your are storing outside. In the States, naptha is available at hardware stores.
If you cannot find that name? White gas/camp fuel/MSR fuel/Coleman fuel...are all naptha. However the names bring costs up. Cheap, white gas for camping...One quart would last a few years.
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Post by scooterted on Nov 7, 2019 7:14:08 GMT -5
I wasnt going to answer because i dont use it. But you're not getting much in the way of replys.
Fogging oil is usually an aerosol can of oil sprayed through the spark plug hole of a cranking engine for storage purposes.
Context: Im fortunate enough to have a few motorized toys, and live in a place i can play with them year round. But im busy (and lazy) enough that i might not mess with them for over a year, ive yet to have major problems. I do however try to use ethanol free fuel, and i Always use stabil and mmo (cause it makes me feel good). Also, none of my stuff is actually stored outside, in a shed or a tent at least.
If i were to intentionally store an engine for more than a year, or an unkown length of time i would without a doubt use fogging oil. Especially if it were stored outside.
A can is cheap enough, and a scoot engine is small enough that it might be why not use it. One can will probably last several years.
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Post by Zino on Nov 7, 2019 7:25:59 GMT -5
Ihave not used foggin oil I just run seafoam in the last tank of gas for the year.
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Post by SMALL CC TEK on Nov 7, 2019 10:35:49 GMT -5
Runs some seafoam for 15 minutes or so then drain fuel bowl . Then pull plug hit it with a shot of WD 40 or something comparable rotate the cylinder a couple of times one more shot of lube and put the plug back in done ... If you run that seafoam or some fuel stabilizer you should not have to drain the tank but if your meticulous drain it hit that with some lube so you don't pick up any rust ...
Rotate it by hand your only trying to coat the cylinder and rings with lube and not blow it all out the exhaust ...
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Nov 18, 2019 11:55:24 GMT -5
You can use just about any light lubricant fed through the spark plug opening if you don't want to go to the fogging oil purchase route. With either a 2T or 4T, you want to splash some lube in, and rotate the crankshaft a couple complete turns to distribute the oil on the cylinder wall. Once done with the rotation, try to get the piston to TDC on the compression stroke. That will close the valves, and put the piston uppermost in the bore. The former closes off humidity inlet/egress via the intake and exhaust ports while the latter puts the piston into contact with the cylinder with a layer of lubricant between the two. The lube should prevent or lessen the probability of oxidation(rust) on the cylinder wall, while keeping the rings lubricated. Fogging is somewhat less effective, but for outboard boat motors with multiple cylinders, almost the only way to get some lube into the crankcase and the combustion chamber, except removing the spark plugs and spraying or squirting lube directly. As I remember, the idea with fog was to have the engine running at idle(Mickey Mouse ears on the water pump intake port, garden hose connected and flowing), and spray fog into the intake until the engine died from an over-rich mixture(hopefully the "Fog" rather than fuel... tom
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Post by jackrides on Nov 18, 2019 12:43:44 GMT -5
Fogging oil should be used on jet-ski engines after use, particularly if it is going to sit for a while. They obviously ingest water mist in use.
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Post by ThaiGyro on Nov 19, 2019 3:42:43 GMT -5
I really had never hear of this.
As and old school guy...if I were in cold country or humid, as now, and not going to run a scooter/bike/whatever... I would tear down the top end, lube it and bag it. Been doing that since the 70's. No issues. Guessing if your parts are OK inside?
That is why we exist to make money. If you buy gaskets? Equal money. If you make your own? Money saved.
I do see where jackrides has a point about "fogging" after a sea spray ride.
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