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Post by hellish100 on Dec 18, 2019 21:52:24 GMT -5
TLDR: I helped a co-worker pick up a motorcycle. The seller had this Vino Copy Cat in the corner of his garage. Fast forward a few weeks, he isn't doing anything with it so I scooped it up for a cool $100. I think I have all the plastics and it came with a spare Mikuni carb. Question #1: Does anyone know of a manual choke to replace the electronic enricher for this Mikuni?
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Post by benji on Dec 19, 2019 3:08:41 GMT -5
I don't know of a choke cable adapter for an OEM style carb, but the early 1st-gen Zuma had a manual choke. Maybe it'll have a carb usable for what your trying to do. The OEM choke circuit works pretty well usually. The Venice is a good bike, I had a couple. Good mix of clone parts.
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Post by Raizer on Dec 20, 2019 3:54:23 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on Dec 20, 2019 16:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 20, 2019 18:24:50 GMT -5
Thank you!!!
I aired up the tires and rolled it out of the garage to see if the mikuni would make a difference. Same result of it just puttering for a moment then dying. It feels almost like a no gas situation but there’s fuel in the bowl and the carb is freshly cleaned. I’m going to buy a compression tester on my way home from work and will report back with the results. If it’s poor compression then I’ll sleep easier knowing that’s the root of my no-run issue.
I’ll keep y’all posted!
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 20, 2019 22:39:17 GMT -5
145psi! I’m going to bypass the fuel pump/valve tomorrow to ditch it as a culprit.
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Post by digitalrelay on Dec 20, 2019 22:43:12 GMT -5
Probably a long shot, but might be worth trying, especially if the spark plug looks wet after attempting to start... I had a really hard time starting mine the first time, even though I was getting good spark. It was suggested I put the air box on, which seemed to help the scooter fire, but it would die immediately. I figured if air flow was so sensitive to the engine, I might as well try pulling the pipe to rule it out as a restriction. The first kick start it ripped to life. I flushed the pipe with water and let it dry a day and it's been great ever since.
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 20, 2019 23:00:48 GMT -5
I’ll give that a shot! It’s got gas, spark and compression. Gotta rule em out one by one. Thanks for the tip!
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 21, 2019 21:31:57 GMT -5
Took the scoot out this morning. Here is the order of operations and results. Before anything, I removed the stock exhaust and threw on a no-name expansion pipe. The stock pipe sounds like a rainstick when you shake it.
Steps: Removed fuel line going to carb. Removed vacuum line going from carb to fuel pump. I checked the pump by blowing on the vacuum line. Result: It did dump fuel out.
Check the pump off the list.
Steps: Put the fuel line on the carb and blew on the vacuum line. Unscrewed the bowl drain Result: Fuel came out.
Steps: Dribbled fuel directly down the carb. Result: Ran good but died out.
Steps: When the engine died out, I checked for spark. Result: Engine still has spark
Steps: Pulled the carb, cleaned the jets again. Result: Actually ran long enough to take for a ride! I didn't stay in WOT since I'm certain that the pipe would lean it out.
A few hours later. Last step: I put the stock pipe back on. Result: Barely sparked once.
Double test: I just swapped the expansion pipe back on. Result: Same issue. It will just sputter and die out. If I give it any throttle, it will die even sooner.
So, more air = needing more fuel which it isn't getting. hmm.
I'll check the carb again but I seriously just cleaned it. I'll also check the Intake manifold for any cracks.
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Post by geoffh on Dec 22, 2019 10:06:08 GMT -5
It seems like a fuel supply issue,when you "clean" the carb you need to check that every channel is clear, use some wire to poke and prod through each one,check the float height as well.
Geoff
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 22, 2019 12:26:37 GMT -5
I just got an air compressor and a nozzle to hit it again. The previous attempt, I was separating wire into individual strands to clean out the jets and passages. I’ve never had an issue like this. I’ll report back after the third cleaning.
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 22, 2019 13:43:12 GMT -5
Before removing the carb, I tried starting it again just to confirm that it's not getting fuel. It needed a few moments to clear out and then it was fine:
Current shopping list: Main Jet kit intake ( the original one is showing signs of age ). Maybe....a 70cc kit?
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Post by digitalrelay on Dec 22, 2019 21:13:26 GMT -5
Those Polini BBK's are still 10% off at scootertuning.ca , plus the 5% discount code for this site. I did sport, but the Corsa is also on sale.
Honestly, I was surprised how easy it was to do the BBK. I highly recommend using the guide in the Technical Article section. It made the install a breeze.
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Post by hellish100 on Dec 27, 2019 20:55:02 GMT -5
Just pulled the trigger on: Polini Corsa C16 Delorto 21mm
I’ll post more when they come in.
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Post by Happypancake! on Dec 27, 2019 23:04:28 GMT -5
Before removing the carb, I tried starting it again just to confirm that it's not getting fuel. It needed a few moments to clear out and then it was fine: Current shopping list: Main Jet kit intake ( the original one is showing signs of age ). Maybe....a 70cc kit? ever thinking of dropping the bars and seat?
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