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Post by lilpinny on Jan 5, 2022 19:57:11 GMT -5
Well update, shop cant get bolt out, say something is wrong big time for it to even do it, so not motor has to be bullet apart and sent to machinest, so that's a big cost I don't use old bearings or seals no matter what, so new seals and bearing inst cheap, and then cost to be done, so I've asked for a full refund from seller, as I'm over it, brand new shouldnt have this problems, or pay this amount to not be right, no joy from malossi, they only sell they don't care, they have a name, well as I said month, let you all know what happens I was going to recommend a machine shop. They can do anything. They’ll get it out quick and rebuild the threads, if needed. I’d just take the engine over there whole and see what they can do. (Speaking from experience here) 😀 |
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Post by pete130 on Jan 5, 2022 20:03:23 GMT -5
Well update, shop cant get bolt out, say something is wrong big time for it to even do it, so not motor has to be bullet apart and sent to machinest, so that's a big cost I don't use old bearings or seals no matter what, so new seals and bearing inst cheap, and then cost to be done, so I've asked for a full refund from seller, as I'm over it, brand new shouldnt have this problems, or pay this amount to not be right, no joy from malossi, they only sell they don't care, they have a name, well as I said month, let you all know what happens I was going to recommend a machine shop. They can do anything. They’ll get it out quick and rebuild the threads, if needed. I’d just take the engine over there whole and see what the can do. (Speaking from experience here) 😀 Thank for your suport, I was hopeing bike shop may have been able to do, then my next thought was machinist, im lucky to know someone. That does work from me, big shop can do anything, so he was my next stop, im hopeing I don't have to pull motor apart, intake is on a bad angel and depending if there macheins, I do have a spear yamaha rc-one cases so I can use the new bearing and seals from that kit, but I shouldn't have to as in defective bolt sold to me, but what do u do about it, most will think a bolt what you complaining about, the bolt has cost me and will cost over ,$500 to fix, so its a expensive bolt, bike shop, didnt have a drill press lol so they didn't want to try buy hand, im glad, now I just have to get to shop, no transport were I live no bis goes there, so ill work it out some how I always do, thanks again |
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Post by repherence2 on Jan 5, 2022 23:52:41 GMT -5
Thank for your suport, I was hopeing bike shop may have been able to do, then my next thought was machinist, im lucky to know someone. That does work from me, big shop can do anything, so he was my next stop, im hopeing I don't have to pull motor apart, intake is on a bad angel and depending if there macheins, I do have a spear yamaha rc-one cases so I can use the new bearing and seals from that kit, but I shouldn't have to as in defective bolt sold to me, but what do u do about it, most will think a bolt what you complaining about, the bolt has cost me and will cost over ,$500 to fix, so its a expensive bolt, bike shop, didnt have a drill press lol so they didn't want to try buy hand, im glad, now I just have to get to shop, no transport were I live no bis goes there, so ill work it out some how I always do, thanks again
well, they will probably set it up on a drill press, chuck up a Left Hand drill bit, and drill it out. easy to do that way in shop. that's where i was first trained on LH drill bits. i am "Outside Machinist", so we do machining on the "boat". there are parts or components that are either too costly or virtually cannot come off the submarine. we go in and do "machining" with portable cutting machines, pipe lathes, as well as hand machining. work in cramped spaces between pipes, pumps, and components. many times we drill out bolts by hand.
in fact, my job yesterday was to drill out a broken bolt that sheared flush with the surface. i forgot to bring a center punch and small drill bits to the boat. all i had was a #1 and #3 5/16-18 tap and a 17/64" regular drill bit that was staged by another mechanic. used the point on the #1 tap as my center punch, and then drilled the 5/16" bolt with the 17/64" drill bit. after 4 seconds of cutting, the bolt remnant bit, and it threaded into the hole 1/4". if i had a LH bit on hand, i would have chucked it up on the cordless drill and backed the bolt remnant out with that. since i only had a regular bit, it continued to drill and sent the remnant another 1/4" down into the hole until it bottomed out. then i just kept drilling the remnant, watching the chips, i felt the drill bit hit the base of the hole. chase it with a tap and it was all good.
for a job like that, i would stuff a cloth or some paper towel in the intake and then put some putty or plasticine clay to seal off the intake area. normally in my craft, if we do not have a proper plug or blank, we will mask the area off with tape and plastic. as machinery mechanics, system cleanliness is our utmost concern.
it does not have to cost you $500 if you do it yourself. if you are not confident to drill it out, i still think a Dremel, tungsten carbide burr, and a scribe/pick can be used for less than $500. but i am one of those types that have never paid anyone else to fix my bike or engine. if the Us Navee trusts me to fix subs, i should be able to do the work on a scoot/moped.
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Post by pete130 on Jan 6, 2022 5:17:01 GMT -5
Thank for your suport, I was hopeing bike shop may have been able to do, then my next thought was machinist, im lucky to know someone. That does work from me, big shop can do anything, so he was my next stop, im hopeing I don't have to pull motor apart, intake is on a bad angel and depending if there macheins, I do have a spear yamaha rc-one cases so I can use the new bearing and seals from that kit, but I shouldn't have to as in defective bolt sold to me, but what do u do about it, most will think a bolt what you complaining about, the bolt has cost me and will cost over ,$500 to fix, so its a expensive bolt, bike shop, didnt have a drill press lol so they didn't want to try buy hand, im glad, now I just have to get to shop, no transport were I live no bis goes there, so ill work it out some how I always do, thanks again
well, they will probably set it up on a drill press, chuck up a Left Hand drill bit, and drill it out. easy to do that way in shop. that's where i was first trained on LH drill bits. i am "Outside Machinist", so we do machining on the "boat". there are parts or components that are either too costly or virtually cannot come off the submarine. we go in and do "machining" with portable cutting machines, pipe lathes, as well as hand machining. work in cramped spaces between pipes, pumps, and components. many times we drill out bolts by hand.
in fact, my job yesterday was to drill out a broken bolt that sheared flush with the surface. i forgot to bring a center punch and small drill bits to the boat. all i had was a #1 and #3 5/16-18 tap and a 17/64" regular drill bit that was staged by another mechanic. used the point on the #1 tap as my center punch, and then drilled the 5/16" bolt with the 17/64" drill bit. after 4 seconds of cutting, the bolt remnant bit, and it threaded into the hole 1/4". if i had a LH bit on hand, i would have chucked it up on the cordless drill and backed the bolt remnant out with that. since i only had a regular bit, it continued to drill and sent the remnant another 1/4" down into the hole until it bottomed out. then i just kept drilling the remnant, watching the chips, i felt the drill bit hit the base of the hole. chase it with a tap and it was all good.
for a job like that, i would stuff a cloth or some paper towel in the intake and then put some putty or plasticine clay to seal off the intake area. normally in my craft, if we do not have a proper plug or blank, we will mask the area off with tape and plastic. as machinery mechanics, system cleanliness is our utmost concern.
it does not have to cost you $500 if you do it yourself. if you are not confident to drill it out, i still think a Dremel, tungsten carbide burr, and a scribe/pick can be used for less than $500. but i am one of those types that have never paid anyone else to fix my bike or engine. if the Us Navee trusts me to fix subs, i should be able to do the work on a scoot/moped.
I'm starting to agree I was able to get the reverse bit to use in drill hole, and im going to try find a reverse drill bit, problem here is small town, and as soon as u say its a expencive motor, they charge throught the roof, and at the prices they want, im willing to have a go myself, I have dermal with a diamond cutting disk, so as u said chop of bolt to flush, im betting it will come out easer that im thinking, was hoping shop could get out to save me the trouble, so im hoping to show bolt out and motor running tomorrow thanks again, |
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Post by repherence2 on Jan 6, 2022 8:26:30 GMT -5
Take your time. Go easy easy. No rush when you do metal removal operations. Take your time, be patient, and let the tool do the work. As in if you drilling or grindind, do not force the tool to cut, do not apply hard pressure.
It is very easy to remove metal, but it is hard to put metal back. A machining operation like this should be done slowly, take your time, no rush. It is not a race, go baby steps.
In the powerplant department, the process for galled fasteners is to rotate it back and forth through it's range of motion. Over time, that range of motion should increase. This was the recommended action in the hot water heater department because cost and exposure to replace the component is too high.
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Post by pete130 on Jan 7, 2022 5:31:13 GMT -5
Take your time. Go easy easy. No rush when you do metal removal operations. Take your time, be patient, and let the tool do the work. As in if you drilling or grindind, do not force the tool to cut, do not apply hard pressure. It is very easy to remove metal, but it is hard to put metal back. A machining operation like this should be done slowly, take your time, no rush. It is not a race, go baby steps. In the powerplant department, the process for galled fasteners is to rotate it back and forth through it's range of motion. Over time, that range of motion should increase. This was the recommended action in the hot water heater department because cost and exposure to replace the component is too high. Well well well 3 holes in the ground,lol fixed  |
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Post by repherence2 on Jan 7, 2022 8:24:42 GMT -5
Im soooo happy for you pete! Right on!
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