Post by br4inl3ss on May 27, 2023 21:34:56 GMT -5
the damn stubbornness of people here, onr eddit, and facebook group....
no matter the knoledge people have.. stubbornness make it so the help is completly useless.
people said to stop using cheap belt, even tho they were better than other i had. ok. i bought a 1PZ premium kevlar belt. SNAPPED IN LESS THAN 150 KM.
lucky me i was riding with someone i dont fucking know. we were just going each our way and it ended up bein the same way. i was in front, because im 72cc he was stock 50cc. when the belt snapped he stopped by trying to help. nothing he could do i had everything with me because i cant take a single damn ride without it breaking belt. when i put out my very slim Dongil ( high quality, but over used ) belt he saw how slim it was ( 15mm instead of 17.5 ). he then said he always carry a spare belt because he ride alot and he rarely is home. i was so damn lucky, his scooter ( Scootterre Voyager ) use the same belt. the belt he carry is a bando premium belt. right now he run a standard bando but carry a premium kevlar one. so since he see me almost everyday he know i wont run away and wanted me to install it to go back home instead of running my "string" belt that cause a 9200 cruise rpm at 55 km/h. we can go to next step.
got a Bando premium... IT FUCKING SNAPPED IN LESS THAN 10 KM. he fell on his ass seeing how fast my scooter break belts.
he checked alignment because he had a similar issue with his zuma 2t ( not snapping but shredding ). he said its fine.
when my 1pz belt snapped, the drive face and variator and the boss was so damn hot ( with the plastic fan melting on the drive face ), we turned the lights off and we could see it red ( barely, hard to see, but we did see it. it didnt alst long tho ). i throwed it in water on the side of the road, my god we could hear it boil. he never saw such overheating issue. no wonder why no belt last and why fan melt.
he said to ask on the internet its not normal... oh buddy if you know... trying to figure this out since 2 damn eyars, only getting " cheap belt get bando ".
he started laughing, he used ONLY cheap belt in the past and never had any problem. they dont last as lng, but they're good. well i had the same feelign with mine. but as you see, even top quality belt snap in no time.
the drive face burnt my glove. weird, i use them on VERY hot surface on a daily basis, and never happened before.
stock spring = belt snapping. 1000 rpm spring = belt snapping. 2000 rpm spring = belt snapping. did i say BELT SNAPPING ?
i have a Naraku in the mail but i will N O T install it. it will snap. its not related to belt quality, as i said at least 20 time. but people are so stubborn they refuse to read and just copy&past " cheap belt " " get bando " " get naraku " " get gates "...
reddit bein the worse of them all. dont even know why there is such """" helping """" subreddit...
now i owe a belt i didnt even bought and i didnt really use.
now im stuck with absolutly NO variator fan. they both melted and unrepairable.
there is even melted white plastic from the fan glued to the side of the belt.
WHY ON EARTH DO CVT KEEP OVERHEATING TO THAT POINT AND NAP ANY BELT EVEN PREMIUM BELT SO FAST
its not alignment. checked over 10 time in 2 years, and proved to be very straight.
its not cheap belt.
itsd not bad variator.
its not bad drive face ( i tought it was... )
its not the clutch.
its not the "sheave".
its not engine overheating ( well not anymore, at least )
its not clogged cvt venting.
once i asked if i should feel some air flow on any end of the cvt, no one answered. but i know that i cannot feel any airflow. once i did put a cardboard between the cvt and wheel so wind from the wheel doesnt kill the candle, and even at 8500 rpm it BARELY make the flame move. pretty sure its air from under the door and not from cvt. i tought that the missing plastic under the foot board could cause a no air flow issue so no air actually enter the case. but not sure if its the issue... ruckus doesnt have this plastic... maddog chuckus either.
i have no scooter to ride now for a long time ( no fan and it overheat with it so imagine running without ) because of stubborness about cheap belt and bad alignment. i dont understand how such good people and with such knowledge get so stubborn... if it was just text, ok. possible there is some lies.. but when its proven .....
the only nearby help i have irl is my brother. but he is stubborn they're made like that and ALL of those overheat and snap belt from factory thats weird, the scootterre ( same long case engine but with rear disc brake ) is PERFECT... the taotao racer also use the same engine iirc, and they dont do that.
the only thing i can think off is the missing plastic causing a huge lack of air flow in the cvt. but i dont see how it could be such a dramatic change in cvt temp.
imgur.com/doTs0ig
no pics from the Bando belt. he picked all the parts of it and went home with it as a proof when he tell this horror story.
no matter the knoledge people have.. stubbornness make it so the help is completly useless.
people said to stop using cheap belt, even tho they were better than other i had. ok. i bought a 1PZ premium kevlar belt. SNAPPED IN LESS THAN 150 KM.
lucky me i was riding with someone i dont fucking know. we were just going each our way and it ended up bein the same way. i was in front, because im 72cc he was stock 50cc. when the belt snapped he stopped by trying to help. nothing he could do i had everything with me because i cant take a single damn ride without it breaking belt. when i put out my very slim Dongil ( high quality, but over used ) belt he saw how slim it was ( 15mm instead of 17.5 ). he then said he always carry a spare belt because he ride alot and he rarely is home. i was so damn lucky, his scooter ( Scootterre Voyager ) use the same belt. the belt he carry is a bando premium belt. right now he run a standard bando but carry a premium kevlar one. so since he see me almost everyday he know i wont run away and wanted me to install it to go back home instead of running my "string" belt that cause a 9200 cruise rpm at 55 km/h. we can go to next step.
got a Bando premium... IT FUCKING SNAPPED IN LESS THAN 10 KM. he fell on his ass seeing how fast my scooter break belts.
he checked alignment because he had a similar issue with his zuma 2t ( not snapping but shredding ). he said its fine.
when my 1pz belt snapped, the drive face and variator and the boss was so damn hot ( with the plastic fan melting on the drive face ), we turned the lights off and we could see it red ( barely, hard to see, but we did see it. it didnt alst long tho ). i throwed it in water on the side of the road, my god we could hear it boil. he never saw such overheating issue. no wonder why no belt last and why fan melt.
he said to ask on the internet its not normal... oh buddy if you know... trying to figure this out since 2 damn eyars, only getting " cheap belt get bando ".
he started laughing, he used ONLY cheap belt in the past and never had any problem. they dont last as lng, but they're good. well i had the same feelign with mine. but as you see, even top quality belt snap in no time.
the drive face burnt my glove. weird, i use them on VERY hot surface on a daily basis, and never happened before.
stock spring = belt snapping. 1000 rpm spring = belt snapping. 2000 rpm spring = belt snapping. did i say BELT SNAPPING ?
i have a Naraku in the mail but i will N O T install it. it will snap. its not related to belt quality, as i said at least 20 time. but people are so stubborn they refuse to read and just copy&past " cheap belt " " get bando " " get naraku " " get gates "...
reddit bein the worse of them all. dont even know why there is such """" helping """" subreddit...
now i owe a belt i didnt even bought and i didnt really use.
now im stuck with absolutly NO variator fan. they both melted and unrepairable.
there is even melted white plastic from the fan glued to the side of the belt.
WHY ON EARTH DO CVT KEEP OVERHEATING TO THAT POINT AND NAP ANY BELT EVEN PREMIUM BELT SO FAST
its not alignment. checked over 10 time in 2 years, and proved to be very straight.
its not cheap belt.
itsd not bad variator.
its not bad drive face ( i tought it was... )
its not the clutch.
its not the "sheave".
its not engine overheating ( well not anymore, at least )
its not clogged cvt venting.
once i asked if i should feel some air flow on any end of the cvt, no one answered. but i know that i cannot feel any airflow. once i did put a cardboard between the cvt and wheel so wind from the wheel doesnt kill the candle, and even at 8500 rpm it BARELY make the flame move. pretty sure its air from under the door and not from cvt. i tought that the missing plastic under the foot board could cause a no air flow issue so no air actually enter the case. but not sure if its the issue... ruckus doesnt have this plastic... maddog chuckus either.
i have no scooter to ride now for a long time ( no fan and it overheat with it so imagine running without ) because of stubborness about cheap belt and bad alignment. i dont understand how such good people and with such knowledge get so stubborn... if it was just text, ok. possible there is some lies.. but when its proven .....
the only nearby help i have irl is my brother. but he is stubborn they're made like that and ALL of those overheat and snap belt from factory thats weird, the scootterre ( same long case engine but with rear disc brake ) is PERFECT... the taotao racer also use the same engine iirc, and they dont do that.
the only thing i can think off is the missing plastic causing a huge lack of air flow in the cvt. but i dont see how it could be such a dramatic change in cvt temp.
imgur.com/doTs0ig
no pics from the Bando belt. he picked all the parts of it and went home with it as a proof when he tell this horror story.