kevino
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Post by kevino on Jul 14, 2023 13:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by kevino on Jul 14, 2023 13:46:52 GMT -5
I've had it for 30 years or more. Weighs 60 pounds or more. This new work table is on wheels. But the plan is to attached to the back wall. Any suggestions where to mount the vise? If it's central then much of the work space is lost. If it's far left then I have to reach across whenever using it. If it's far right same problem. Perhaps near right? The table is one inch thick. But beneath it is metal drawers. So I doubt I could run bolts through the wood. What's the best way to mount this into one inch thick wood?
TIA,
kevino
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Post by geoffh on Jul 14, 2023 15:44:04 GMT -5
Shame to spoil that top,I would mount it on a removable base and g clamp the base to the table as and when I needed it  . Geoff |
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Post by classacted on Jul 14, 2023 15:52:17 GMT -5
yeah, that table isn't adequate for the vice either. awesome vice.
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Post by GrumpyUnk on Jul 15, 2023 9:06:14 GMT -5
The vise appears ready to tip the table over. If mounted, I would suggest a corner as central mounting seems to limit accessibility. On the corner, you can have long stuff that hangs down, or use tools that would impact the bench top. Most smaller vises have a capability to rotate for further accessibility. This one does too.
You could drill into the benchtop and insert threaded fasteners that will remain embedded into the top. Then use bolts through the vise base to fasten it down when needed. Leaves most of the benchtop free of obstructions until you need to use the vise.
I keep wanting to type vice... but that should not apply.
I am envisioning the fasteners you use to embed a 'nut' into sheet metal or thin bar stock. Using a pop-rivet gun, they will apparently pop and get retained. I am sure I have seen fasteners that can be embedded and use leaving a mostly flat surface.
tom
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Post by kevino on Jul 16, 2023 5:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. The table seems strong enough to handle the weight. But any excuse not to mar the wood makes sense. I've got a lot of junk wood and can build a platform same height as the table. And mount it to the wall through the wall studs. Then slide the table over and clamp the two together.
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Post by kevino on Jul 16, 2023 6:05:26 GMT -5
The vise appears ready to tip the table over. If mounted, I would suggest a corner as central mounting seems to limit accessibility. On the corner, you can have long stuff that hangs down, or use tools that would impact the bench top. Most smaller vises have a capability to rotate for further accessibility. This one does too. You could drill into the benchtop and insert threaded fasteners that will remain embedded into the top. Then use bolts through the vise base to fasten it down when needed. Leaves most of the benchtop free of obstructions until you need to use the vise. I keep wanting to type vice... but that should not apply. I am envisioning the fasteners you use to embed a 'nut' into sheet metal or thin bar stock. Using a pop-rivet gun, they will apparently pop and get retained. I am sure I have seen fasteners that can be embedded and use leaving a mostly flat surface. tom Before moving here I had used lag bolts similar to these to fasten the vise to a wood work table. A wood screw: a) head; b) on-threaded shank; c) threaded shank; d) tip. |
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Post by FrankenMech on Jul 16, 2023 14:18:48 GMT -5
The fasteners for bolts into wood are called T-Nuts. They come in many sizes. A hole is drilled where the nut is needed then the not is inserted from the back side. Clamping force draws the nut and prongs into the wood. They are not used on sheet metal despite what the advertisement below says, stupid seller. There are nuts for use in sheet metal but these are not them.
There are many more sizes available. They are also available at hardware and home box stores.
A vise should have a very heavy secure base, A roll-around table is usually not adequate. People have used an old tire and wheel filled with concrete with a steel post for a good base. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 16, 2023 15:08:02 GMT -5
That's a nice workspace. I'd be inclined to mount the vise elsewhere just to retain that area for other tasks because the vise takes up a lot of it, even in a corner.
I'm with FrankenMech. Wherever you choose, make sure it's beefy. That's a heavy and heavy duty vise so it's platform needs to be equally capable to make the best use of it.
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Post by jloi on Jul 17, 2023 10:06:26 GMT -5
Kevino- if it's not done already , I see you have new drywall on the back wall !! one thing you could do for mounting the vise is ; since the drywall is not mudded/finished - you could remove 1 sheet or a portion of 1 sheet - and put some either 2"x10" wooden backing in the wall or some type of metal flat plate for backing, spanning 3 of the studs. then you could attach a 2"x10" by about 44" long to the face of the wall; then lay another 2x10" on top of the 1st one so you have a shelf ; then add 2x4"s underneath to support a 2nd 2x10. so you now have a shelf that comes out from the wall 20 inches and it's about 44" long. now you need some sort of base to help support it .
I think this idea with the 4x4's has some merit . something like this could attach to the wall - but needs to stick out much further . the vise in this pic looks exactly like my Wilton 5" vise .
my vise is a 5" jaw. yours is quite a bit bigger - and heavier . on my table , on the right front corner I placed a 2x10 x about 20" long ; half on and half off the table . I just drilled thru my plywood top and secured the vise and 2x 10 with 5/8" bolts and nuts from underneath . if I get over to my storage I will take a picture of it .
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Post by jackrides on Jul 17, 2023 12:17:47 GMT -5
Like Frankenmech, I've seen a concrete filled wheel with pipe and a metal plate for the vise. Heck, find a nice custom wheel with a dent or big ding. Big advantae is that it can be Carefully rolled on its edge. It is $ and labor intensive, but what a great thing!
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Post by FrankenMech on Jul 17, 2023 19:01:59 GMT -5
My uncle had that concrete filled tire with a pipe for his vise. The tire made it easy to move around and the rubber tire and weight kept it from sliding around while using the vise. There are vids on the web on how to do it. I just have very heavy work benches under most of mine.
His setup had the center of the wheel filled with concrete also for extra weight. The pipe stand can be welded to the wheel or bolted but if a welder is used the big holes for adding the concrete must be cut first to avoid pressure buildup from pyrolysis inside the tire, just removing the valve stem or core is not enough. Keep the tire rim cool during welding and after. Bolting the pipe assy to the wheel avoids that problem. People sometimes go wild with a welder...
Google: "pyrolysis tire explosion" There are explanations and some scary vids of what happens.
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Post by jloi on Jul 17, 2023 21:00:43 GMT -5
yeah , if you could find an old fan; the big industrial ones for work sites, whhse's , with the big steel bottom . but seems like tires are your best bet . simple , quicker . maybe you could put a big fan base - in a tire with the pole still attached .
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