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Post by pete130 on Jan 3, 2020 5:57:06 GMT -5
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Post by dexameth on Jan 3, 2020 9:39:15 GMT -5
I found out my brand new Tecnigas NextR doesn't fit my ETON Matrix. Sad. Disregard. Manipulation, success.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2020 12:40:50 GMT -5
Installing wiring harness to Hondarelli. Don't know why, but I dislike this part.
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Post by 2stroked on Jan 9, 2020 18:17:30 GMT -5
Just rode it. Not much work to do on a 250 when its a Honda. Front brake is a bit sticky, so I'll prolly be rebuilding that caliper soon but its OE on a 98 from Maine, so its not a total surprise.
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Post by 2stroked on Jan 11, 2020 12:47:41 GMT -5
Well, shiat. I should have kept my fool mouth shut. Was doing a good once over before taking the Helix for a spin. Started her up, warmed her up, and noticed a cakve ratlle. Suspect: exhaust valve. Set it right, fired it up, warmed to norml/, and brought the revs to 2500 rpm. That's when all hell tore off. Something made a violent crash, like bolts in a metal coffee can. I killed the engine and started to panic. I thought maybe I screqed up and dropped a valve. Pulled the cover (rockers are built in to the cover) and the plug wire, and spun it over. Smooth and silent. No metal in the oil, plug looks new still, valves are tight in their seats, and have the fancy bee hive double springs.
Valve cover back on, start the engine, and the rattle is there. Nasty, loud and violent. The wife came out, and said "Sounds like its coming from the clutch" which is what she calls the whole CVT. Sure enough....stethoscope and seconds later, that's where the sound is. So I get to tear the cover off and diagnose the clutch now. Its bad. Rode ten feet and felt/heard the slip/skip. My guess is a broken or missing spring....screw my life right?
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Well, that was new one. I opened the CVT and was faced with something I never thought possible. The belt had flipped itself. Like the "teeth" were facing OUT. Never in my life has that even occurred to me. Powers out due to wind, so no air so no impact. Squeezed the clutch together, and used the front half to round the belt off. Flipped it back and did the same thing in reverse. No sound, no vibration, and pulls great. Don't get it.
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Post by ryan_ott on Jan 11, 2020 15:01:21 GMT -5
What a great January day here in eastern PA topped out around 67f. Probably should of waited for the wet salty roads to dry before I took the scoot out. Nothing a hose and some oil can’t take care of.
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Post by aeroxbud on Jan 11, 2020 19:08:28 GMT -5
Well, shiat. I should have kept my fool mouth shut. Was doing a good once over before taking the Helix for a spin. Started her up, warmed her up, and noticed a cakve ratlle. Suspect: exhaust valve. Set it right, fired it up, warmed to norml/, and brought the revs to 2500 rpm. That's when all hell tore off. Something made a violent crash, like bolts in a metal coffee can. I killed the engine and started to panic. I thought maybe I screqed up and dropped a valve. Pulled the cover (rockers are built in to the cover) and the plug wire, and spun it over. Smooth and silent. No metal in the oil, plug looks new still, valves are tight in their seats, and have the fancy bee hive double springs. Valve cover back on, start the engine, and the rattle is there. Nasty, loud and violent. The wife came out, and said "Sounds like its coming from the clutch" which is what she calls the whole CVT. Sure enough....stethoscope and seconds later, that's where the sound is. So I get to tear the cover off and diagnose the clutch now. Its bad. Rode ten feet and felt/heard the slip/skip. My guess is a broken or missing spring....screw my life right? EDIT: Well, that was new one. I opened the CVT and was faced with something I never thought possible. The belt had flipped itself. Like the "teeth" were facing OUT. Never in my life has that even occurred to me. Powers out due to wind, so no air so no impact. Squeezed the clutch together, and used the front half to round the belt off. Flipped it back and did the same thing in reverse. No sound, no vibration, and pulls great. Don't get it. That really is a strange one. Never heard that before. Everything ok, and no play in anything? Weird.
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Post by 2stroked on Jan 11, 2020 20:24:17 GMT -5
Well, shiat. I should have kept my fool mouth shut. Was doing a good once over before taking the Helix for a spin. Started her up, warmed her up, and noticed a cakve ratlle. Suspect: exhaust valve. Set it right, fired it up, warmed to norml/, and brought the revs to 2500 rpm. That's when all hell tore off. Something made a violent crash, like bolts in a metal coffee can. I killed the engine and started to panic. I thought maybe I screqed up and dropped a valve. Pulled the cover (rockers are built in to the cover) and the plug wire, and spun it over. Smooth and silent. No metal in the oil, plug looks new still, valves are tight in their seats, and have the fancy bee hive double springs. Valve cover back on, start the engine, and the rattle is there. Nasty, loud and violent. The wife came out, and said "Sounds like its coming from the clutch" which is what she calls the whole CVT. Sure enough....stethoscope and seconds later, that's where the sound is. So I get to tear the cover off and diagnose the clutch now. Its bad. Rode ten feet and felt/heard the slip/skip. My guess is a broken or missing spring....screw my life right? EDIT: Well, that was new one. I opened the CVT and was faced with something I never thought possible. The belt had flipped itself. Like the "teeth" were facing OUT. Never in my life has that even occurred to me. Powers out due to wind, so no air so no impact. Squeezed the clutch together, and used the front half to round the belt off. Flipped it back and did the same thing in reverse. No sound, no vibration, and pulls great. Don't get it. That really is a strange one. Never heard that before. Everything ok, and no play in anything? Weird. Nothing abnormal. The bike doesn't even have 20k miles on it, and its NOT the original Honda OEM belt. Little worn, and probably obviously stretched a bit, but nothing excessive. Nothing to make this make sense. I wouldn't believe it if I were anyone else, or didn't see it first hand. It never crossed my mind as even being possible.... Last year, I went through the bike front to back, to fix what a hack shop butchered, and the belt was as it should have been. I've no earthly idea what happened, nor how.
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Post by oldgeek on Jan 12, 2020 7:38:44 GMT -5
Well, shiat. I should have kept my fool mouth shut. Was doing a good once over before taking the Helix for a spin. Started her up, warmed her up, and noticed a cakve ratlle. Suspect: exhaust valve. Set it right, fired it up, warmed to norml/, and brought the revs to 2500 rpm. That's when all hell tore off. Something made a violent crash, like bolts in a metal coffee can. I killed the engine and started to panic. I thought maybe I screqed up and dropped a valve. Pulled the cover (rockers are built in to the cover) and the plug wire, and spun it over. Smooth and silent. No metal in the oil, plug looks new still, valves are tight in their seats, and have the fancy bee hive double springs. Valve cover back on, start the engine, and the rattle is there. Nasty, loud and violent. The wife came out, and said "Sounds like its coming from the clutch" which is what she calls the whole CVT. Sure enough....stethoscope and seconds later, that's where the sound is. So I get to tear the cover off and diagnose the clutch now. Its bad. Rode ten feet and felt/heard the slip/skip. My guess is a broken or missing spring....screw my life right? EDIT: Well, that was new one. I opened the CVT and was faced with something I never thought possible. The belt had flipped itself. Like the "teeth" were facing OUT. Never in my life has that even occurred to me. Powers out due to wind, so no air so no impact. Squeezed the clutch together, and used the front half to round the belt off. Flipped it back and did the same thing in reverse. No sound, no vibration, and pulls great. Don't get it. For no apparent reason, I had that happen ONE time on a horizontal minarelli. Sounds even stranger that it happened on a Helix.
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Post by 2stroked on Jan 12, 2020 11:09:48 GMT -5
Well, shiat. I should have kept my fool mouth shut. Was doing a good once over before taking the Helix for a spin. Started her up, warmed her up, and noticed a cakve ratlle. Suspect: exhaust valve. Set it right, fired it up, warmed to norml/, and brought the revs to 2500 rpm. That's when all hell tore off. Something made a violent crash, like bolts in a metal coffee can. I killed the engine and started to panic. I thought maybe I screqed up and dropped a valve. Pulled the cover (rockers are built in to the cover) and the plug wire, and spun it over. Smooth and silent. No metal in the oil, plug looks new still, valves are tight in their seats, and have the fancy bee hive double springs. Valve cover back on, start the engine, and the rattle is there. Nasty, loud and violent. The wife came out, and said "Sounds like its coming from the clutch" which is what she calls the whole CVT. Sure enough....stethoscope and seconds later, that's where the sound is. So I get to tear the cover off and diagnose the clutch now. Its bad. Rode ten feet and felt/heard the slip/skip. My guess is a broken or missing spring....screw my life right? EDIT: Well, that was new one. I opened the CVT and was faced with something I never thought possible. The belt had flipped itself. Like the "teeth" were facing OUT. Never in my life has that even occurred to me. Powers out due to wind, so no air so no impact. Squeezed the clutch together, and used the front half to round the belt off. Flipped it back and did the same thing in reverse. No sound, no vibration, and pulls great. Don't get it. For no apparent reason, I had that happen ONE time on a horizontal minarelli. Sounds even stranger that it happened on a Helix. So, it HAS happened to someone else. Thank God. I was really on my way to crazy with this. I still don't see his its even possible, but obviously it is. The Helix CVT is an odd design, short case with large diameter Vari and Clutch. The belt is surprisingly small, 828 x 22.5 I believe. I could something like this happening if something was physically binding, but that's not the case here, I don't believe. I don't know. This whole this is odd....
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Post by dexameth on Jan 15, 2020 20:43:15 GMT -5
Went to help a friend fix a broken belt on his GY6 since he was like a half mile away. I took a 738x18x30 to limp his short case 150 home and when I got there we could not find a working outlet for the wired impact wrench anywhere. Started walking back, I drove up to the next building to look for an outlet and my engine started acting weird so I stop and idle is all erratic. My dang idle mix screw fell out! Look down, it's right there by my rear tire but the spring is gone. We both ended up walking to my house for the repairs and he got home (9 miles) on the used 738x18 belt (should be 743x20 so close enough haha)
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Post by ryan_ott on Jan 15, 2020 21:59:06 GMT -5
Working on getting the ignition adjusted so I can run the EPROM (2.9mm BTDC vs. .35mm) and found that my crank seal was leaking. Swapped that out and that’s probably the source of an occasional idle hang I’ve had.
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Post by aeroxbud on Jan 16, 2020 6:32:20 GMT -5
Went to help a friend fix a broken belt on his GY6 since he was like a half mile away. I took a 738x18x30 to limp his short case 150 home and when I got there we could not find a working outlet for the wired impact wrench anywhere. Started walking back, I drove up to the next building to look for an outlet and my engine started acting weird so I stop and idle is all erratic. My dang idle mix screw fell out! Look down, it's right there by my rear tire but the spring is gone. We both ended up walking to my house for the repairs and he got home (9 miles) on the used 738x18 belt (should be 743x20 so close enough haha) It was caused by the two stroke gods. Not happy you going to the aid of a four poke.
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Post by geoffh on Jan 16, 2020 16:06:27 GMT -5
Dexameth,you missed it I can see the spring top left just below the black bit.
Geoff
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2020 7:59:05 GMT -5
Got the smoke out from Hondarelli! There was no idle, but was revving ok. Sounded like it was running way too rich. After testing, carburator was overflowing. So maybe that is part of the problem . Good to see that used ebay electrics seem to work.
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