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Post by 'O'Verse on Jul 18, 2015 13:29:25 GMT -5
I googled super 8 exhausts and didn't come up with anything. But then I remembered scooter-center.com. They only offer all three versions of the tecnigas. Next r, rsII, and the Q tre which is supposed to be better than my next r or the rsII in torque and horsepower. For any of the three $80 plus shipping is pretty reasonable. They are in Germany so you might want to google scooter-center.com American version. But as far as part selection goes it's the most I've seen for the kymco super 8. 2t. I ordered my (next r)exhaust from them. It did take a little time for customs to check it threw. But for the price.....
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Post by sai on Jul 18, 2015 15:32:54 GMT -5
I googled super 8 exhausts and didn't come up with anything. But then I remembered scooter-center.com. They only offer all three versions of the tecnigas. Next r, rsII, and the Q tre which is supposed to be better than my next r or the rsII in torque and horsepower. For any of the three $80 plus shipping is pretty reasonable. They are in Germany so you might want to google scooter-center.com American version. But as far as part selection goes it's the most I've seen for the kymco super 8. 2t. I ordered my (next r)exhaust from them. It did take a little time for customs to check it threw. But for the price..... I read a chart from Scooter tuning matter.com and it says that Tecnigas isn't very good. The Leo Vince is better. Seems like Stage 6 or Yasuni are the only 2 better than Leos |
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Post by 'O'Verse on Jul 18, 2015 16:13:31 GMT -5
I would want the yasuni myself.... And check out the( ultimate scooter exhaust test 70cc by tunning matters) it has a couple more exhausts to look at if your still deciding.
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Post by sai on Jul 18, 2015 16:15:24 GMT -5
I would want the yasuni myself.... And check out the( ultimate scooter exhaust test 70cc by tunning matters) it has a couple more exhausts to look at if your still deciding. Which ones are you referring to? All I see better than the leo is Yasuni or stage 6 |
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Post by 'O'Verse on Jul 18, 2015 19:20:46 GMT -5
Your right!
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Post by sai on Jul 18, 2015 23:44:09 GMT -5
Hmmmm... What's the deal with stage 6 r1200? It says even more power than pro
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Post by niz76 on Jul 19, 2015 0:29:10 GMT -5
That chart from tuningmatters.com ( HERE's The LINK) was made using the Stage6 Streetrace cylinder, so these exhausts may perform a little differently on the Malossi cylinder you've chosen- it really all depends on the cylinders port layouts. I have no idea how the Streetrace cylinder and the Malossi one you've chosen compare- they may be very similar for all I know- but just kinda wanted to throw that out there. I guess I'm just saying that the chart #'s are kinda more of a guide at this point... The R1200 seems kinda peaky- meaning it only makes good power in a very narrow RPM range so you'd need to make sure your CVT tuning is spot on for that pipe to work well. (You'd want to tune your CVT to *always* be in the 8500-9500 RPM range. Hate to point out the obvious, but the best pipe seems to be the Yasuni C16- well, they did name it the winner of this test!- It makes great power (a little more than the R1200 even) in a wider RPM range so your scoot would be more "streetable" and more forgiving of your CVT tune... |
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Post by niz76 on Jul 19, 2015 0:34:16 GMT -5
BTW, 2TDave has run the Yasuni C16 (with a S6 Streetrace I think) with a stock crank. He said it did want to Rev up into the 11,000 RPM range sometimes, but he'd back off for fear of grenading the stock crank. BTW, I believe he has run this setup for like 2 years now on a stock crank so it is doable! I hate trying to paraphrase another member's experiences, so if I've mis-quoted 2TDave- please correct me! |
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Post by sai on Jul 19, 2015 7:50:29 GMT -5
That chart from tuningmatters.com ( HERE's The LINK) was made using the Stage6 Streetrace cylinder, so these exhausts may perform a little differently on the Malossi cylinder you've chosen- it really all depends on the cylinders port layouts. I have no idea how the Streetrace cylinder and the Malossi one you've chosen compare- they may be very similar for all I know- but just kinda wanted to throw that out there. I guess I'm just saying that the chart #'s are kinda more of a guide at this point... The R1200 seems kinda peaky- meaning it only makes good power in a very narrow RPM range so you'd need to make sure your CVT tuning is spot on for that pipe to work well. (You'd want to tune your CVT to *always* be in the 8500-9500 RPM range. Hate to point out the obvious, but the best pipe seems to be the Yasuni C16- well, they did name it the winner of this test!- It makes great power (a little more than the R1200 even) in a wider RPM range so your scoot would be more "streetable" and more forgiving of your CVT tune... Hmmm... unfortunately the Yasuni C16 won't let me use the center stand, so I'll have to go with the Pro replica or R1200. I definitely want one of the 2, but I can't have an exhaust that just performs at WOT. Definitely low end and mid range power for the hills and take off. I'm reading other forums too right now about this exhaust and I get conflicting info... as usual. One place says that the Pro Replica only produces power at WOT and lacks low + mid. |
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Post by sai on Jul 19, 2015 8:07:38 GMT -5
So after further reading... the Pro replica = street/race and the R1200 is pure race.
Since I'm upgrading to a Super 9 liquid cool cylinder with Top racing Crankshaft and all those other upgrades, what would make more sense out of the 2?>
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Post by 'O'Verse on Jul 19, 2015 13:41:43 GMT -5
There's also the Yasuni Carrera 20, 21 and 30. Are they any better then the 16? Take the kickstand off. If it's the heavier version. Less weight. Bolt on or weld a lighter side stand. Blam.
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Post by sai on Jul 19, 2015 15:06:12 GMT -5
There's also the Yasuni Carrera 20, 21 and 30. Are they any better then the 16? Take the kickstand off. If it's the heavier version. Less weight. Bolt on or weld a lighter side stand. Blam. I need the kickstand. the terrain here is uneven and middle stand is much more stable. I'm sticking with either the Pro Replica or the R1200, but I'm trying to figure out which is better since I'm not racing. |
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Post by Elektrey on Jul 19, 2015 15:22:49 GMT -5
Cylinder might be liquid cooled (more power) but it's still a sport ported cylinder so I'm guessing just the pro rep will be better matched to it.
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Post by sai on Jul 19, 2015 15:33:26 GMT -5
Cylinder might be liquid cooled (more power) but it's still a sport ported cylinder so I'm guessing just the pro rep will be better matched to it. What's exactly so different about say the Pro Replica and R1200 ? Is it really only where it creates power and the top end MPH? So : Pro replica= better take off, better 1/2-3/4 throttle , much lower top end R1200= Weaker take off, weaker 1/2-3/4 throttle, but much higher top end ? |
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Post by spaz12 on Jul 19, 2015 15:52:54 GMT -5
You would be very unhappy if you bought the 1200. That pipe is for mid-race and above. Even then it is a peaky pipe with a very narrow power band, like Niz said.
I don't see the C16 working well either, unless you work the port timings. I ran a C16 on an Athena cylinder and it did "ok". I liked the Leo Vince a lot more with the Athena.
I think that your best bet would be the Stage6 Rep
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