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Post by allfor5 on Sept 12, 2015 15:13:12 GMT -5
'm a college student with a budget and I want something reliable that will last me the next two year and that I can sell later on and get some of my money back. My commutes would be about 5-10 miles a week or so. I am currently looking at buying this www.amazon.com/Street-Legal-Scooter-TaoTao-ATM50-A1/dp/B00J4TX59Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1442084809&sr=8-1&keywords=gas+moped I understand it's chinese but it does have a lot of good reviews. There is also a local seller offering the Vento Triton that I posted in the pictures. Here are the specs Vento Triton R4 2005 Model 2,240 miles. Asking $675 ( I feel this is a bit high since it doesn't have a luggage rack). Where can I buy a luggage (cargo box) btw? And how much are they I am test driving the Vento this week. What should I look for? What do you think it's worth? Will it last me another two years? What could go wrong with the used one and what are the biggest most expensive things to replace? Thank You!
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Post by 'O'Verse on Sept 12, 2015 15:42:21 GMT -5
Just my opinion. I would try to pick up the triton. It's a 2 stroke 49cc big body. Tons of cheap aftermarket parts. (Looks or engine)You do not want a 4 stroke Tao tao. Good reviews or not. The chances of you buying a 4 stroke Chinese scooter brand new and it not having a problem early on or at all during its lifetime is slim to none. Test drive the triton. Take your phone flashlight and look inside the gas tank. Try to look and see if there's any rust in the tank. Make sure there's no red flags while test driving it either. Try to talk him down on price. Tell him your story. 2200 miles is practically new. If you feel the need later on to go faster the easier it will be with the 2 stroke triton. Make sure you keep it full of Oil and gas. Once again, just my opinion. Probably the biggest problem would be the piston or cylinder from not taking care of it ($100) unlikely. More likely are Bad valves with the brand new 4 stroke. Most likely either a carb cleaning or new carb if the scooter sat for a long period of time without being drove. New carb($40). From the pictures the only thing I see that I would replace is the floor board right before you re sell it.
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Post by katastroff on Sept 12, 2015 15:54:26 GMT -5
Like O'verse said, get the 2t if you are not planning on learning small engine mecanics.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 15:58:59 GMT -5
I don't know. I might just get the new one as the one in the photo shows a lot of oil leakage under where that scoot has been parked. I do not like oil leaks on anything mechanical. My 4T 49cc (with almost 4,500 miles on it) does not leak a drop of oil anywhere....yet. (crossing fingers.)
Just my opinion.
Bill
PS The Tao is a good , basic, Chinese scooter and yes, you might (probably) have to go over it and learn how it works. A forum like this one is invaluable to find out what goes bad, what to change, what to check upon delivery...etc. All I know is my buddy that gave me my scooter got it with 400 miles on it and then I got it with 4,000 miles on it and he has never had any problems and so, far, neither have I. I did replace a lot of the cvt parts to help dependability and performance and did routine maintenance but, mine is a 2008 that sold for like $400 new. 4,000+ miles for $400 bucks is not bad. Plus, the new one will have some kind of warranty which might help if there is a major engine problem or something.
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Post by derbiman on Sept 12, 2015 16:41:30 GMT -5
The Vento would probably have a higher resale value and is probably more reliable.
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Post by allfor5 on Sept 12, 2015 16:57:14 GMT -5
Do u guys know where i Can buy a cargo box from? and are they all universal I'm thinking about haggling the price on the Vento to $450-500
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Post by frank50e on Sept 12, 2015 17:36:31 GMT -5
Vento hands down IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 17:43:44 GMT -5
Do u guys know where i Can buy a cargo box from? and are they all universal I'm thinking about haggling the price on the Vento to $450-500 Scrappy's has one for $49 and one for like $80 here: Scooter parts....Scroll down near the bottom of the page and you will see them. Bill
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Post by frank50e on Sept 12, 2015 18:36:50 GMT -5
Before you commit to a scooter I have a few questions,hopefully to help you in the long term.Are you reasonably mechanically inclined? Do you have storage and a place to perform maintenance?Do you have basic hand tools?
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Post by derbiman on Sept 12, 2015 20:38:11 GMT -5
You can probably pick up a trunk on ebay pretty cheap. I got one for $20.
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Post by Elektrey on Sept 12, 2015 21:49:57 GMT -5
Someone on here was selling trunks I dont know if they still have any but check the for sale section
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Post by allfor5 on Sept 12, 2015 23:05:52 GMT -5
Before you commit to a scooter I have a few questions,hopefully to help you in the long term.Are you reasonably mechanically inclined? Do you have storage and a place to perform maintenance?Do you have basic hand tools? I'm hoping and praying it won't need a lot of maintenance since I'l only drive 5-10 miles a week. I'm on a college campus so everybody here just gets repairs done at the store ( I guess I could figure out the easier things) ( I fix computers so I guess I could learn how to fix scooters)
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Post by spaz12 on Sept 13, 2015 0:19:49 GMT -5
Triton: (smiling as you pass all those TaoTao's on the way to class) TaoTao: (puke) (sick to your stomach and throwing up as you watch the Triton pass you while you sit on the side of the road wondering wtf is wrong with this thing AGAIN?!) I'm a 2 stroke fan so I'm most definitely biased
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 13, 2015 5:59:54 GMT -5
I own 2 Tritons and a TaoTao ATM50. I'd take the Triton any day. I have not been as lucky as PirateLabs and my TaoTao with ~4400 miles on it has had crank seals replaced numerous times because it leaks oil. They're both Chinese scooters, so don't expect a Honda/Yamaha, but my Triton treated me very well when it was new. The Triton will be quicker and faster and has more potential for speed if that's ever a desire. My TaoTao cruises in the low 30MPH range with me on it and the Triton would cruise around 40MPH stock. The Triton has more leg room and is more comfortable to ride. The 12" wheels and longer wheelbase of the Triton make it more stable at speed. The 10" wheels and short wheelbase of the TaoTao make it extremely responsive to steering input which is great at low speeds. Here is the rear piece designed to mount a storage box on the Triton, but I'm sure you can find one cheaper if you do enough searching. If you check out the pic, the design is pretty easy to spot if you try searching eBay or other sites for one : www.partsforchinesescooters.com/2/Bracket_for_Carrier_Box_Matrix_scooter_107XP-1440.html
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Post by frank50e on Sept 13, 2015 7:58:18 GMT -5
To reply to your response to me.I would make absolutely sure the "store" you speak of will work on whatever brand you select.First I would guess your 5-10 est. is way conservative.Having said that your obviously a smart guy,something you pay 500 for is going to need some attention over a two yr.time span.Another consideration is a used Japanese or Taiwan scoot will be much more dependable,likely to find a service center for, and retain it's value better.But of the two, again, Triton.
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