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Post by driftped on Apr 20, 2016 11:22:36 GMT -5
I recently was trying out some 108 octane booster, yet as I am now baffled since my scooter refuses to start... Well out of curiosity I took a wife of the gas that sprays through the car, it is still pretty fresh gas, however it looks clear, super clear, does octane booster lessen the ability of gas to remain as fresh for as ling...?
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Post by ThomasTPFL on Apr 20, 2016 11:37:34 GMT -5
Depending on what's in it may have damaged various rubber or plastic bits inside your carb. Or dissolved crud in your tank and now you have a clogged filter or jets.
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Post by 2stroked on Apr 20, 2016 13:23:02 GMT -5
Also depends on how much of the bottle you used. doesn't take much for what our tanks hold.
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Post by FrankenMech on Apr 26, 2016 1:49:57 GMT -5
Octane booster is usually alcohol, very bad on scoot parts.
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Post by renagade281 on Apr 28, 2016 8:05:37 GMT -5
yea i never use any octane booster... just use 93 octane gas with seafoam every few tanks
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Post by stepthrutuner on Apr 28, 2016 9:10:04 GMT -5
www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible_pg3.htmlIn some extreme cases, the highest octane fuel available might not solve a knocking or detonation problem. That's normally a symptom of a deeper problem in the engine involving carbon deposits on the cylinder heads, bad spark timing, faulty engine management systems or similar. In these cases, some people choose to add octane booster to their petrol. Basically you fill the tank as normal, then put in a measured amount of octane booster and it further raises the octane level in an attempt to stop the detonation. One of the downsides of this is that it can make the engine harder to start from cold, because the octane booster has made the fuel so much less volatile that it's hard to get it to ignite on the first couple of strokes. Products like Klotz and Redex octane boosters are readily available over the counter in most auto parts stores. Octane boosters are typically used by mis-educated motorcyclists who believe the myth (explained above) that high octane = more power.
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Post by humanshield on Apr 28, 2016 12:28:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't use it in your scooter. The .000002 HP gain isn't worth the potential damage it could do.
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Post by Clank on Apr 29, 2016 4:31:51 GMT -5
Huh...... My results of experiences with octane boost have been very positive. I will occasionally take a one ounce shot glass to measure it out per tank fill. I've not had a knocking issue though. And can't say it gives anymore horsepower but will say it seems to make for smoother and quicker acceleration.
Though I am at 4500' so I wonder how the altitudes factors in?
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 29, 2016 4:35:48 GMT -5
Though I am at 4500' so I wonder how the altitudes factors in? You should be less likely to require high octane at higher elevations because the air is less dense and you're at lower risk for knock. Aren't your local pumps lower numbers than the 87-93 range that's common at sea level and near it? |
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Post by Clank on Apr 29, 2016 4:40:18 GMT -5
Though I am at 4500' so I wonder how the altitudes factors in? You should be less likely to require high octane at higher elevations because the air is less dense and you're at lower risk for knock. Aren't your local pumps lower numbers than the 87-93 range that's common at sea level and near it? Affirmative. Range 85-91. |
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Post by Clank on Apr 29, 2016 4:42:09 GMT -5
But what would make it burn more efficient? Cause I swear it accelerate smoother and the engine will actually run a few degrees hotter.
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Post by gsx600racer on Apr 29, 2016 16:38:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't use it in your scooter. The .000002 HP gain isn't worth the potential damage it could do. Damn, sticker and decals give ya better performance gains than that.  |
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Post by stepthrutuner on Apr 29, 2016 18:47:31 GMT -5
ClankThe increased temp is the result of the effective piston driving pressure arriving too late, doing less useful work and being rejected as heat due to the slower combustion of higher octane gas. The smoother running could be true but you are running at lessened thermal efficiency for your engine not spark timed or mechanically set up (higher compression ratio) to optimize the higher octane combustion charateristics
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Post by SandStorm on May 1, 2016 19:12:05 GMT -5
those octane boost are junk better use proper fuel instead. over here we have simple 95 RON, premium 95RON and premium 98RON fuel. The premiums use several additives. Usually I tend to use the 98 premium. if the petrol station doesn't have it, then i use 95 premium. It's waaaay better to use good grade fuel than those "miracle" products  |
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Post by FrankenMech on May 2, 2016 1:23:29 GMT -5
RON is the Research Octane Number. It is a chemical test octane number. In the states we use an average of the RON and the Motor octane number. The Motor octane number was a test using an actual engine. I don't know how they do it now but the octane numbers we see over in the US is always less that the RON used elsewhere.
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