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Post by blaq on Jul 3, 2016 7:54:32 GMT -5
Let me say it a OK alarm thus far butt I need to work the kinks out. take a look at the video (sorry for funny cigarette) plus.google.com/111594443010249981131/posts/GAivvH4vhnGI added my led accents to alarm but I want my leds to turn on when bike is running to butt when I put power to that wire while still connected for some reason it sends power to a turn signal for steady illumination instead of powering the led power bank / brain.  Also remote start works but only when key is in the on position. Nor will it remotely turn off once it's been remotely started with key in. What good is that? The remote will not kill the bike as stated it would as a anti hijack feature. But it still will sound and shine the lights The great thing about this is if I wanted to leave it like that it was the simplest ever to set up literally plug & play   But I don't I want it too work properly. If anybody can help with those problems would be great. |
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Post by blaq on Jul 4, 2016 0:52:42 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 4, 2016 7:13:33 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what needs to change because alarms aren't my thing (all I ever do with alarms is remove stock ones), but I may have an idea of what the remote start issue is. From the first vid, it looks like you can get it to crank the engine over with the key off, so it's doing it's job working the starter and there's no reason to have the key in for that. It only actually starts when the key is on though. What I'm assuming is happening is that your ignition switch is still grounding the kill circuit as it normally should when in the off position. That means it has no spark when it's trying to start without the key or with the key off. Then you turn the key on and it takes that ground off of the CDI and you have spark so it will start with the remote start.
If I'm correct, somehow the alarm/remote start system needs to be able to bypass the kill circuit in order to allow spark when using the remote start without the key. You could take the spark plug out an check for spark when you use the remote start both ways, or check for a ground on the black/white wire on the CDI. As long as that wire is grounded, you aren't going to get spark. Both the kill and ignition switches can apply a ground there. Again, the ign off will apply a ground. Of course kill switch set to kill also will. The kill switch doesn't seem like as big of a deal, just leave it on if it is a problem after the ign is figured out.
I'm thinking the not turning off is related as well. I assume it shuts the engine down by applying that ground to the CDI and it's unable to. It's probably all related and something is either wired wrong so the alarm has no access to the kill circuit, or the alarm/remote start is not functioning properly for that action.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 4, 2016 7:16:32 GMT -5
Here's a diagram from a scooter with a stock alarm system so you can look at how it's tied in and compare to your wiring.  |
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Post by blaq on Jul 4, 2016 17:21:50 GMT -5
Here's a diagram from a scooter with a stock alarm system so you can look at how it's tied in and compare to your wiring. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. I can't see the words on the picture not even when I follow link. |
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Post by blaq on Jul 4, 2016 17:26:51 GMT -5
Thus far since I figured out what I need for the accent lights setup and how it go I just made a fake wire harness for it so it can look much cleaner. And I added another relay. Not gonna tape it up yet because I will add one more but the flasher relay cost me 17 bucks @ auto zone so I'll get the next one off the net sense I know now what I need for it  |
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Post by blaq on Jul 4, 2016 20:32:34 GMT -5
 I don't quite get this diagram pertaining to my issues. Do I cut wire from ignition? I'm just stumped about this ? I'm sure I can get this, I just need a lil push. |
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Post by arkie on Jul 5, 2016 0:59:47 GMT -5
From what I can see yes you cut that wire it is I believe the kill circuit. Which means that your alarm has a built in kill circuit allowing it to bypass the stock one in order for it to start the scoot without the key.
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Post by blaq on Jul 5, 2016 8:39:00 GMT -5
From what I can see yes you cut that wire it is I believe the kill circuit. Which means that your alarm has a built in kill circuit allowing it to bypass the stock one in order for it to start the scoot without the key. What about what there trying to say right side of key lock?  |
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Post by arkie on Jul 5, 2016 9:52:58 GMT -5
Honestly that's the part I don't get. Have you tried cutting that lock to cdi black/white wire yet? I think thats your problem.
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Post by blaq on Jul 5, 2016 17:14:59 GMT -5
 So I pulled the plug on both ends tied that wire to it but it did nothing nothing changes adding that wire to it and it will remote start, and not remote cut off or anti hijacking |
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Post by arkie on Jul 5, 2016 17:44:20 GMT -5
Ok so do you have the black/white wire from the alarm hooked to the other end of the black/white CDI wire?
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Post by blaq on Jul 5, 2016 21:06:22 GMT -5
Ok so do you have the black/white wire from the alarm hooked to the other end of the black/white CDI wire? No there is no black&white wire. Only solid black (ground), two yellows (turn signals), blue (remote start), red (positive battery), grey ? ,pink ?, brown? And just disconnecting that ignition wire would allow the engine to fire up. It just wouldnt turn off by key I would have to use kill switch to shut off |
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Post by blaq on Jul 5, 2016 21:17:59 GMT -5
youtu.be/CYwXRJc1K-QI thought I had it when I saw this video but it still does same thing some times the pink wire would stop engine when I attached it back to that same wire in the picture above
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Post by arkie on Jul 5, 2016 21:20:36 GMT -5
So the solid black wire goes from the keyswitch to the CDI? if so then cut it, connect the pink to the side going to the keyswitch and the gray wire gets connected to the other black going to the CDI.
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