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Post by bazhee on Jul 20, 2016 7:26:53 GMT -5
Hi guys, this is my new thread. I have opened not many threads on the forum but this is my official one for my scoot. I asked about help many times from you and used all advices and tips from the forum. 4 months ago I did not knew a thing about scoots, 2 strokes or anything like that. I dont know a lot now too but I am lot better then I was before..Thanks to all users or the support. This is my scoot: I was installing parts at the service, maintaining and all that kinds of stuff. I had thrown lots of cash ( around 500$+) for it and now I am working on my own on my scoot. btw the machine is the yamaha jog china clone (1e40qmb) Okay so my current setup is: Cyl. Kit: 47MM China BBK (I guess it's Hoca) Exhaust: Gianelli Extra Carbon CVT: Polini Speed Control Variator Polini Air Speed Variator Pulley Polini Kevlar Belt Polini Racing Clutch Polini Torque Driver Polini Clutch Bell Current MAX SPEED: 130 kmh - 82mph The scoot is madness, it pulls really hard and has strong acceleration till max speed.. However it tears apart on every ride because it's too much power for a chinese steel that is not even good for a "bicycle". Future Plans: Going back to 50cc stock cylinder kit and stock clutch, torque driver and bell.. Updates soon!
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Post by humanshield on Jul 20, 2016 12:50:43 GMT -5
You'd run just about even with a 250cc Kawi Ninja in that case. They can hit about 87 depending on the winds. Tuck a little tighter and you just might break 100mph. You are SO close
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Post by bazhee on Jul 21, 2016 5:03:22 GMT -5
You'd run just about even with a 250cc Kawi Ninja in that case. They can hit about 87 depending on the winds. Tuck a little tighter and you just might break 100mph. You are SO close I could probably get a 3-4 miles with heavier rollers and a little bit more tune. However running the stock chines crankshaft at 14.000 rpm is just not a great idea... I am going back to stock cyl soon..
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Post by spaz12 on Jul 21, 2016 9:08:06 GMT -5
Really cool looking scooter.
I think though that you're speedometer is lying (badly) to you. Check it with GPS. The Gianelli Extra is also a sub-10k pipe which tells me that your tach isn't telling the truth either.
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Post by Lucass2T on Jul 22, 2016 10:45:11 GMT -5
That speedo is soo far off... I think you're lucky if it's 60mph @ gps...
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Post by gsx600racer on Jul 22, 2016 11:15:41 GMT -5
The Polini parts list is good, but I don't think they make it 82mph good. Unless that scoot is stroked, cylinder has some crazy porting done, engine turning 12-14k rpms, and has some gearing, I think your speedo is fibbing a tad
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Post by niz76 on Jul 22, 2016 18:13:38 GMT -5
My stock speedo on Roketa Air says I'm doing 80mph when in reality it's 60mph GPS. That's how far they can be off!
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Post by bazhee on Jul 23, 2016 9:10:33 GMT -5
Some update guys, scoot blew up today I broke the crank.. Blown the piston also and the cylinder has lots of lines on it hahah. I forgot to mention up in the post that I was running a 19mm DELLORTO carb. I am going back to all stock parts now except for the variator and the exhaust. So I am thinking about reworking the old cylinder (from 40mm to 40.5MM and installing a japanese good quality piston). I had some jetting problems before with the old carb but now I will not run a BBK so I guess it will be fine? I will use a 75 or 80 main jet and will see how the bike will perform. I will also install a new China crank again because I am not looking for much power now.. I will try to install the kit on my own and I will adjust the CVT so my bike delivers max power below 7500 RPM for the first 1500 miles. I think this would be the best way for breaking the new kit. After that I will adjust the CVT to rev higher and pull stronger. I am looking at a max speed of 55MPH while standing at around 8500-9000 RPM MAX. BTW UP IN THE POST: The Speed with white numbers is from iPhone APP - Snapchat which does count through GPS About the cylinder kit, I was running a kit with 47mm bore, the cylinder has been heavily ported (not by me), and also the cyl. head has been aligned -2mm I think.(Not sure about these bc I havent made those tunings). The scoot had huge compression, the kickstarter was nearly as hard as on a 4stroke dirtbike.. When I installed the clutch it revved almost 8500 RPM before engaging and when accelerarting in full power the rpm needle went 1,5 inch after 12k rpm so I thought it's about 14k. For the speed I have tried gps and also running straight to a car, it showed up with 80MPH everytime. I am really sorry now that I learned much about scoots and realised that air cooling ones are very bad for tuning because they OVERHEAT in almost 5 minutes and their performances are at very lower rpm than LC scoots. I also learned that doing so much tuning to a chinese cyl and piston will give you lots of power and you will be happy for just one week because it's quality is crap. Thank you for following this post, I will be back after I rebuild my scooter soon.
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Post by aeroxbud on Jul 23, 2016 11:28:05 GMT -5
Good luck with the rebuild. If you go with something like a Polini or Mallossi cast iron cylinder it makes really good torque. Is low revving, and should be OK with the standard crank
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