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Post by oldgeek on Jul 10, 2017 6:11:57 GMT -5
I do not trust using an impact on some things because it is hard to tell just how tight it is.
For the clutch nut I use a long well fitting crescent wrench and hit the handle on the cement to break them loose and to tighten them. I have never had a problem with one coming loose, but I probably have about 1/2 the HP of your build.
I agree with PIG, there has to be something else going on.
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Post by ryan_ott on Jul 10, 2017 8:51:49 GMT -5
I'd replace that nut to be on the safe side. I just lock the nut in a vise and use a rubber strap wrench around the clutch to tighten. I've never had any issues.
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Post by spaz12 on Jul 10, 2017 13:54:39 GMT -5
When I was fixing it yesterday the threads felt fine, like, you could turn the nut real easy in either direction. I have an old TD, buried in a box somewhere, that I can dig up and grab the nut. I'll do that soon and see what happens.
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Post by tsimi on Jul 11, 2017 1:22:27 GMT -5
Not again that nut.
That nut should not come off that easy. Pigs scoot is also a high revving machine and he never had issues with it.
Did you use blue loctite the first time it came loose?
We are talking about that big nut that holds the clutch down on the torque driver right? The pressure of the torque spring should actually prevent the nut from coming loose.
I use a special big, flat tool 41mm for that nut and at the end I always give it a good wack on the ground to close it tightly. Might take a video the next time so you can see. I don't own any impact wrench so all done by hand here.
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Post by spaz12 on Jul 11, 2017 2:03:54 GMT -5
lol I think I put blue loctite on it, but can't remember. I'm even thinking of peening the nut so that it won't turn, but I'll try the red loctite first.
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Post by spaz12 on Jul 12, 2017 2:53:52 GMT -5
Somehow I turned the GPS off on the camera, so I don't have any numbers on how fast I was going before the 400 passed me. I'll try again in a couple of weeks.
Here's most of the video though if anyone is interested.
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Post by AtariGuy on Aug 5, 2017 22:16:21 GMT -5
Duuuuumb question(s?) - thats pretty much a jog style longcase, right? What size rear rim and rubber do you have on it?
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Post by niz76 on Aug 6, 2017 9:53:35 GMT -5
Somehow I turned the GPS off on the camera, so I don't have any numbers on how fast I was going before the 400 passed me. I'll try again in a couple of weeks. Here's most of the video though if anyone is interested. Yayuh! How do folks react to your little scoot?- If you were driving that here in FL I bet folks would ask you all about it everywhere you went. I just keep seeing more and more interest in scoots in my area... |
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Post by spaz12 on Aug 6, 2017 14:26:44 GMT -5
Duuuuumb question(s?) - thats pretty much a jog style longcase, right? What size rear rim and rubber do you have on it? It's a horizontal Minarelli from a Yamaha Aerox, so the same cylinders fit and yes it's a long case, where the (older) Jog motors and most of the clone motors are short cases. It also has the disk brake, which is why I got it. Anyway, the Aerox has 13 inch wheels and I have those as well. The rear tire is a 140/60-13 and I believe that the front is 130/60-13. I'll look later to confirm. |
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Post by AtariGuy on Aug 6, 2017 14:33:23 GMT -5
It's a horizontal Minarelli from a Yamaha Aerox, so the same cylinders fit and yes it's a long case, where the (older) Jog motors and most of the clone motors are short cases. It also has the disk brake, which is why I got it. Anyway, the Aerox has 13 inch wheels and I have those as well. The rear tire is a 140/60-13 and I believe that the front is 130/60-13. I'll look later to confirm. Reason i ask is i'm curious how much rear tire one could fit into a jog longcase. How much clearance do you figure you have around the rear wheel and the case/shock with the tire you have mounted? |
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Post by spaz12 on Aug 6, 2017 14:40:31 GMT -5
I'd say that the majority of people that see it and hear it like it and I've gotten a lot of positive comments about it, even a lot of the big bike guys like it and give the thumbs up. There have been a few of the negative Nancy's, but I try to ignore them for the most part. Now I'm just waiting for the weather to cool down a bit so that I can ride it some more  Oops, meant to quote niz76 |
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Post by spaz12 on Aug 6, 2017 14:45:12 GMT -5
It's a horizontal Minarelli from a Yamaha Aerox, so the same cylinders fit and yes it's a long case, where the (older) Jog motors and most of the clone motors are short cases. It also has the disk brake, which is why I got it. Anyway, the Aerox has 13 inch wheels and I have those as well. The rear tire is a 140/60-13 and I believe that the front is 130/60-13. I'll look later to confirm. Reason i ask is i'm curious how much rear tire one could fit into a jog longcase. How much clearance do you figure you have around the rear wheel and the case/shock with the tire you have mounted? The Zuma motor is a long case that comes with 10 inch wheels and you can throw the 13 inch wheels on them. The problem is finding wheels where everything matches up, or you can get parts that will allow you to match them up. moofus02 has a lot of knowledge on the Minarelli's and what will match up. |
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Post by moofus02 on Aug 6, 2017 20:10:23 GMT -5
The adly motors are long case with transmission cover under the torque driver like the aerox/Zuma and short case motors. They use shortcase clone gears and a long belt. The long case clone gear cover bolts on from the wheel side. The short case and long case clone and Zuma use a large axle. The adly and 50cc aerox use a small axle. The Zuma and 100cc aerox have a large rear drum brake. The 50 aerox is disc and most of the clone stuff has the same size drum.
On the long case stuff you have room for big fat 10 inch, 12 inch or 13 inch wheels and tires. Not talking piggy or morini just minna.
To go disc rear use aerox motor, adly with a voca caliper adapter and aerox hub or you can use long case clone with voca adapter or a disc gearbox cover. The problem with that is the large axle hub. Eton used a 5 bolt hub adapter for the disc and wheel and the wheel was 12 inch. You can buy new but expensive. A 3 bolt like the aerox is covered in a thread here but the axle was longer and I can't find a new axle for it so the hub has to be machined to work. With a drum you can buy a drum hub for the Zuma or clone brake size and axle and bolt a 13 inch aerox wheel to it. For the Zuma you can locate a aerox 100 drum wheel for a 13 inch. Lots to consider but 13 inch drum or disc rear is doable just cost money
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Post by moofus02 on Aug 6, 2017 20:12:48 GMT -5
Another option is a morini wheel from an Aprilia sr50. The axle is large but the wheel is one piece and disc bolts to the wheel. Don't know if it will bolt on our not
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Post by AtariGuy on Aug 6, 2017 21:09:05 GMT -5
I've got a jog longcase clone on order from 180°off - whenever he makes it back online, i'm sure life has him by the... pigtails for a better term. So just trying to plan out a build for mine. Thought i'd ask a feller what he has currently mounted to see how possible my crazy ideas would be. I don't mind a drum rear, but have been eyeballing a 150/70-13 tire, just have to track down a gearset, axle, hub, and wheel. Are there any spoke hubs for mina rears? |
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