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Post by humanshield on Sept 23, 2016 12:56:20 GMT -5
I am not this seller but this is unfair......
Who ever this is....they bought a BBK from a ebay seller...they gave the seller neutral feedback because ...
Neutral feedback : "so far good....but can not tune everything in!!"
Buyer: d***e
80cc Big Bore Kit Cylinder 64mm Head Piston Rings Set Chinese Scooter 50cc GY6 (#291567626384) US $47.50
ebay sellers depend on feedback ratings because ebay can do a lot of undesirable things to sellers based on feedback so this buyer actually hurt the seller because THEY were unable to get the scooter :"tuned in". How is that the sellers fault?
Not right
Folks, don't blame sellers because of your inability to use the parts they sold you. If they sold you good parts and shipped the parts as promised, that is all they are responsible for.
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Post by Cincikid on Sept 23, 2016 13:18:53 GMT -5
I think this happens a lot.
I don't think most buyers give the seller a chance to address their concerns.
IMO ebay sellers are at an unfair disadvantage.
You should carefully consider your feedback when it directly affects someone's livelihood.
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Post by humanshield on Sept 23, 2016 13:57:27 GMT -5
Agreed.
On the other hand, sometimes buyers are too quick to give positive feedback. Too many buyers seem to (according to the discussion forums on ebay) give positive feedback as soon as the item arrives only to find out later the item was wrong or didn't work.
I usually wait 30 - 60 days before leaving feedback.
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Post by gsx600racer on Sept 23, 2016 18:03:56 GMT -5
Iv only given one Ebay seller a bad review.
This seller was parting out a ZX50. Every part was .99 cents starting bid, but had buy it now option too.
Well I bit the bullet and bought the CVT cover as a buy it now. If anyone that's looked for one, they are hard to come by.
The rest the items I let the auction run out and I won them all. The shipping was a bit pricey, but when you only paid a buck each for all the items, it eased the sting. So I combined all the items and paid in full for all. I get shipping conformation for only the buy it now item. In the mean time, I was in communication with the sell trying to get the tranny gears seeing he wouldn't sell the case because it was damaged. I would of paid for the case and gears just to get the gears, but no dice. Still waiting for the other items to ship I get a notification from paypal that I got a refund. I contacted the seller and he said he decided not to sell anything else. So I contacted Ebay and asked how this was possible, he breached the contract when I won the auctions and paid. He basically said when canceling on Ebay that the items were no longer in stock. I argued with Ebay stating it was only a quantity of one per item. In the end Ebay did nothing, and the POS got away with it.
Funny thing, this seller did that same thing to about 1/2 dozen other buyers and still Ebay did nothing.
So in the end, I gave this seller his well deserved negative feedback.
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Post by humanshield on Sept 23, 2016 18:24:39 GMT -5
Can't blame you. I've had that happen recently in a way. Mine was refunded because the seller sold the item at too low a price and didnt realize it...he didnt say that tho. Just said OOPS OUT OF STOCK.
I didn't leave negative feedback.....yet (but I still could)
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Post by gsx600racer on Sept 23, 2016 18:47:21 GMT -5
Can't blame you. I've had that happen recently in a way. Mine was refunded because the seller sold the item at too low a price and didnt realize it...he didnt say that tho. Just said OOPS OUT OF STOCK. I didn't leave negative feedback.....yet (but I still could) When they place an auction, they entered a contract with Ebay, when you bid and win, you have entered a contract with the seller. If the seller back out, its a breach of contract. I could see if the item was discovered defective or unsellable as it was not described, but if the sell was looking for more money and they didn't get what they wanted, they cant back out. That's why they call it a auction. Both the seller and the buyer are accepting the risks. Sorta like buying a car and the sales person realized they goofed on the price and you have both signed the sales contract at the agreed price and both have copies of it, and they want to tear up theirs and redo at another price. That has happened to me as well, needless to say they lost at the end even with all the BS excuses. Attorney general, BBB, and the Media are words they do not want to hear. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 23:12:06 GMT -5
Can't blame you. I've had that happen recently in a way. Mine was refunded because the seller sold the item at too low a price and didnt realize it...he didnt say that tho. Just said OOPS OUT OF STOCK. I didn't leave negative feedback.....yet (but I still could) When they place an auction, they entered a contract with Ebay, when you bid and win, you have entered a contract with the seller. If the seller back out, its a breach of contract. I could see if the item was discovered defective or unsellable as it was not described, but if the sell was looking for more money and they didn't get what they wanted, they cant back out. That's why they call it a auction. Both the seller and the buyer are accepting the risks. Sorta like buying a car and the sales person realized they goofed on the price and you have both signed the sales contract at the agreed price and both have copies of it, and they want to tear up theirs and redo at another price. That has happened to me as well, needless to say they lost at the end even with all the BS excuses. Attorney general, BBB, and the Media are words they do not want to hear. Yes, but that crap happens all of the time. I had it happen to me 2 times buying brand new cars. The contract is done...signed..etc. then, you show up to pick up the car and, they hand you a new contract you must sign to get the car. This new contract, is, of course, for $3,000 more in purchase price. When you ask why this is...they say it was a "routine common typing error." Sounds like they were using the words given to them by their attorneys. I just walked away and said the deal was off BUT, the manager confronted me and said that I had signed a contract and had to take the car. I told them to contact my attorneys (I had some back then) and left. (In most states you have 3 days to walk away from an auto contract anyway) Both times, I bought vehicles elsewhere. It must have been some symposium for dealers on how to raise the price AFTER the sale as both of these happened with 2 different dealers within the same year. Just think of the poor bastards that said...oh really? Oh ok. Even if they only got 1 out of 10 to do it, they made gravy on the deal. Bill |
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Post by tsimi on Sept 23, 2016 23:43:39 GMT -5
Another example is; people buy a product from a chinese seller which in 99% comes with world wide free shipping. Now you should know that something from china with world wide free shipping won't arrive within 1 week but mostly somewhere around 1 month. They then leave a feedback after 1 week saying "item has not arrived yet" or "it took 3 weeks for the item to arrive" I mean for christ sake you haven't got the item yet and already leave negative feedback? For free shipping to anywhere in the world! And besides I as a possible future buyer don't give a shit about such feedbacks, what I want to know is was the item good in quality? Or was it as described? That is what people should leave as feedbacks. Not complain about shipping which you should have know that it will be slow. Do the math, $10 item won't get shipped out via $50 UPS express for free! Not gonna happen, ever.
My advice when you order from chinese sellers or china shops like gearbest or aliexpress, "order and forget!". Place the order and forget it for now.
Regarding wrong pricing of products, Amazon did the same thing. They had electric gardening tools for $10 each so I thought, that's not possible for that price but still I got me 3 items for $30 and paid with credit card.
Few days later I received a refund and an email explaining that they actually meant to give a 10% discount on those items but the guy who registered those items made a mistake causing all prices to show as $10.
Well, shit happens I guess as long you get your money back all is good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2016 0:00:49 GMT -5
That's why I like Banggood. On a lot of products, not all, you can choose which warehouse you want it shipped from. For example...a widget from the China warehouse is $5.00 but will take "about" a month. Or, you can order the same item from a US warehouse but now it costs $8.00. Free shipping on either one but, you get to choose. If you really need/want that part/product then the extra $3.00 is nothing to have it delivered in about 4 days. If it is something that you don't really need for a while, then you save the $3,00 and wait it out. I have never had a problem with those folks and I have ordered many products from them.
Now, Gearbest? I had a serious problem with them and ended up paying 1/2 of the cost for a product that never arrived. That was after negotiating a settlement. I did agree to it but, I also will never deal with them again.
Bill
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Post by FrankenMech on Sept 24, 2016 2:28:05 GMT -5
I buy from a variety of companies. I have Amazon Prime but I have some 'difficulties' with some of their policies. They make it damn near impossible to leave a negative review. At the same time they allow people to leave paid reviews where they buyer got a discount for giving a good review. Personally I think paid reviews are a scam. I don't participate in the Amazon review system anymore. I used to add important information that was left out by the seller etc. I got a lot of 'likes' for my reviews.
On the other hand I see a lot of negative reviews on Amazon, Ebay, and others where it is obvious the buyer is just plain stupid, like the one in the opening post.
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Post by dan50 on Sept 24, 2016 5:38:31 GMT -5
I usually leave good feedback. Most sellers I've dealt with, usually new parts, ship quickly and package stuff good so it doesn't get damaged in transit. The items and quantity are correct. The item arrives on or before stated date.
The only time I left negative feedback was when I ordered a Star Wars game. The ad said they accept Paypal. I paid with Paypal, then the seller contacted me and wanted paid differently, there was a problem with his Paypal account. The email I got from the seller had a nasty tone about paying on time, I did, I paid with Paypal. If there was a problem on his end, that is his problem not mine. I did pay and get the item. I also let Ebay know what happened with the transaction and I did give a negative review to the seller.
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Post by liftit on Sept 26, 2016 10:40:36 GMT -5
While its a shitty outcome, under contract law, in most cases you can't force a party to complete their end of a contract. That's indentures servitude. You get your money back and everyone is restored to the position they were in before the contract was entered into. There are other situations where you can get damages, like if the other party knows that you need something and that you will lose money if they delay in their completion. As for sales contracts with typos, that's covered under unilateral/mutual mistake and a contract can be reformed even after agreement. But you don't have to accept it if it is changed. They honestly may have made a mistake, or they were trying to screw you. Either way, you can walk away from it or you can sue to enforce the original contract. |
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Post by humanshield on Sept 26, 2016 11:01:10 GMT -5
Another example is; people buy a product from a chinese seller which in 99% comes with world wide free shipping. Now you should know that something from china with world wide free shipping won't arrive within 1 week but mostly somewhere around 1 month. They then leave a feedback after 1 week saying "item has not arrived yet" or "it took 3 weeks for the item to arrive" I mean for christ sake you haven't got the item yet and already leave negative feedback? For free shipping to anywhere in the world! And besides I as a possible future buyer don't give a shit about such feedbacks, what I want to know is was the item good in quality? Or was it as described? That is what people should leave as feedbacks. Not complain about shipping which you should have know that it will be slow. Do the math, $10 item won't get shipped out via $50 UPS express for free! Not gonna happen, ever. My advice when you order from chinese sellers or china shops like gearbest or aliexpress, "order and forget!". Place the order and forget it for now. Regarding wrong pricing of products, Amazon did the same thing. They had electric gardening tools for $10 each so I thought, that's not possible for that price but still I got me 3 items for $30 and paid with credit card. Few days later I received a refund and an email explaining that they actually meant to give a 10% discount on those items but the guy who registered those items made a mistake causing all prices to show as $10. Well, shit happens I guess as long you get your money back all is good. Man. That is some dirty billards play there. |
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Post by humanshield on Sept 26, 2016 11:03:02 GMT -5
Chinese sellers on ebay that say item must be returned are a joke.
They get free, government subsidized shipping to USA. But your cost to return an item to China? One word...
Fugeddabouditt
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Post by ThomasTPFL on Sept 27, 2016 19:50:06 GMT -5
Chinese sellers on ebay that say item must be returned are a joke. They get free, government subsidized shipping to USA. But your cost to return an item to China? One word... Fugeddabouditt Is that why it's so easy to find free shipping on stuff from China? |
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