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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 8:37:56 GMT -5
When i put my prima drain bolts in i filled the oil to proper level. checked it last night and..nothing. would barely read on the tip of the stick with it screwed all the way in. oil catch is empty  I am not noticing a smoke screen behind me when I ride soooo... wtf? |
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 30, 2011 9:05:21 GMT -5
Well the smoke screen (probably light colored) is likely indicating a sealing problem... aka you're burning oil. Just gotta figure out where from. Piston rings, bad seal or gastket?
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 9:27:56 GMT -5
Well the smoke screen (probably light colored) is likely indicating a sealing problem... aka you're burning oil. Just gotta figure out where from. Piston rings, bad seal or gastket? I said I DO NOT see smoke. :lol: |
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 30, 2011 11:45:23 GMT -5
Sorry, I read too fast sometimes. That is a head scratcher then. :stumped: Seeing any evidence of oil on your spark plug? I assume you are checking the oil the same way each time (either filler cap screwed in or not). An oil return problem should be ruled out since these engines have a giant opening for the cam chain where oil returns from the head to the crankcase.
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 13:42:12 GMT -5
well
turns out...it IS smoking
BAD
Just got back from a 30 miles ride and its blue smoking bad
I am thinking a broken oil ring
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 13:43:25 GMT -5
going to pull the plug now but i suspect it to be oil fouled
brb
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 30, 2011 13:50:59 GMT -5
Yeah, if you are seeing blueish smoke, there is little doubt you'll see some or a lot of oil residue/fouling on the plug. Check the rings first, look for gasket leaks, and see if it looks like a bad valve seal. If it smokes constantly it's more likely to be a ring sealing issue. If you notice smoke mostly after start up or sitting for a while, sometimes after idling for long periods, it may be a valve seal.
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:02:11 GMT -5
yeah the plug is black with oil...and yeah the smoke is like...a trail now ..james bond style
I DO have another set of 50 mm rings that I could put in. A new set
Broken oil ring maybe? still have great power (for now)
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:09:16 GMT -5
pics in a min, gonna take the motor out
83cc bbk lasted 175 miles.
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:16:34 GMT -5
I havent started yet, the sun is on the drive
DAMN!!!
It ran great and i didnt push it.
it will be intersting to see those rings.
Brent has a good point but this is a new head. However. I have seen new starters, heads, pumps bad out of the reman-box.
My guts are telling me rings...but why?...we shall see....pics soon i gonna get some batts.
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:22:04 GMT -5
I suppose i could put the stock head on it to test the leaking valve guide theroy
but
if its not, i just made lots for labor for myself
hmmm...
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 30, 2011 14:23:33 GMT -5
If you get it apart that far, it makes more sense to go ahead and look at the rings. If you don't see any other issues, then maybe try the other head.
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:23:42 GMT -5
my gut tells me its a ring so I am going to press ahead in that direction. It leaves a trail of blue smoke so.....hah...yeah gotta be..
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 14:35:29 GMT -5
im going straight for the rings, id bet my last dollar thats where its at.
pics to come.....
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Post by speedy1125 on Apr 30, 2011 15:44:17 GMT -5
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