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Post by jdl357 on Jan 29, 2017 8:06:47 GMT -5
The sensor end of my tto temp gauge 14mm spark plug sensor is messed up. I didn't know the replacement sensor ends are all most as much as a whole new unit! Could I use a k type generic sensor end or can I repair the end myself?
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 29, 2017 8:34:06 GMT -5
They use thermistors and TrailTech wouldn't give me any info on them, so replacement with something cheap may be difficult.
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Post by gsx600racer on Jan 29, 2017 8:55:37 GMT -5
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Post by ThaiGyro on Feb 1, 2017 8:13:18 GMT -5
How is it messed up? Wire cut? Most temperature "sensors" are simple thermisters, in which resistance drops as the sensor element heats up. Simple, unless you have no thermister element. If simply cut, just solder it back on.
If you know the resistance range, or even if not...go to a local electric geek shop and ask. Buy one for pennies. Solder it in...done!
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Post by humanshield on Feb 1, 2017 11:11:39 GMT -5
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Post by paceneedsstides on Feb 1, 2017 21:41:13 GMT -5
thats a good link unless it's a minimum 10K pieces unit lol ordered alot from them when I was in aerospace electronics |
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Post by gsx600racer on Feb 2, 2017 5:48:48 GMT -5
Iv messed with a couple temp gauges and swapping sensors & ect. All the NON-trailtech sensors did NOT work with the trailtech units as well as trailtech sensors did NOT work with brand "X" units. The Temp gauges that you see on ebay and amazon will either use the PT100 - 100k ohm(-20°F ~ 450°F) or NTC 1000k ohm(-49°F to +230°F). These will not work with trailtech.. Iv tried. 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/14941/trail-tech-alternatives-updated-reviewTrailtech does not offer any technical specs on what thermistors they use. They do a good job keeping their intellectual property a secret. With this said just save yourself the aggravation, time, and money spent on components that wont work and just buy the OE replacement. Not knowing whats exactly wrong with your old sensor I cant help ya with how to fix it. |
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Post by ryan_ott on Feb 2, 2017 8:33:54 GMT -5
If it's just the ring terminal that's damaged and it still reads temps you could gently crimp a new non insulated ring terminal on (electrical connector) Some of the off brands I've seen that's all they are. The ends are changeable.  20mb image hosting |
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Post by humanshield on Feb 2, 2017 10:47:51 GMT -5
Kinda surprised the Chinese haven't come up with a cheap knockoff to the Trail Tech
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Post by gsx600racer on Feb 2, 2017 11:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by ryan_ott on Feb 2, 2017 11:22:53 GMT -5
Kinda surprised the Chinese haven't come up with a cheap knockoff to the Trail Tech Besides these units I haven't seen any just for temperature. www.ebay.com/itm/272094396538 |
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Post by tsimi on Feb 2, 2017 18:45:40 GMT -5
No offense to those who use trailtech stuff but I said it in the past and I say it again that companys products suck!
I mean besides that the sensors cost half the price of a new device they run on non-replaceble batteries. So even you get a new, overpriced sensor how long is that thing gonna keep running? Other companies were able to build devices that can be connected to the scooters/bikes power circuit.
And besides a china sensor cost 2-4 bucks so wtf is with those 20 bucks?
Sorry for the rant but I simply cannot believe that such a company can still be in business these days with such a product lineup.
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Post by gsx600racer on Feb 2, 2017 19:14:40 GMT -5
No offense to those who use trailtech stuff but I said it in the past and I say it again that companys products suck! I mean besides that the sensors cost half the price of a new device they run on non-replaceble batteries. So even you get a new, overpriced sensor how long is that thing gonna keep running? Other companies were able to build devices that can be connected to the scooters/bikes power circuit. And besides a china sensor cost 2-4 bucks so wtf is with those 20 bucks? Sorry for the rant but I simply cannot believe that such a company can still be in business these days with such a product lineup. No offense taken. If there was another option similar to Trail Tech with a replaceable battery, back lit, and you had everything you needed to hook it up in the box and within a decent price range, I would be all in.(hence my review of another option) Till then Trail Tech is the lesser of all evils. I reviewed another option, but not happy with the $2 sensors you have to buy then make up the plug adapter and have it all work and be accurate. I cooked a couple with the solder iron alone. I was being careful too. PS: I'm waiting for one of mine to die so I can tear it down and see whats inside.  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Feb 3, 2017 7:37:22 GMT -5
I still have my first Trail Tech tach. Not sure exactly how old it is, but it owes me nothing for the $25-30 I paid for it. 1 old temp gauge that still works. 3 Vapors that I really like. My biggest complaint is with the under plug CHT senders. I have more issues than I think I should with them.
EDIT : Looking back at vids, my first TTO tach is now 6 years old and still working, though it's been off of full time duty for the last year since I got a Vapor on that scoot. Maybe battery life is worse on some types of TTO gauges or I'm just lucky.
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Post by tsimi on Feb 3, 2017 7:55:14 GMT -5
Do the Vapors have backlight?
It might very well be that you were lucky thus far. I drive daily and my guess is that they wouldn't last long.
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