Theorists?

[niz76]

LOL.

  So many "quacky conspiracy theories" have been proven true by sources such as the Freedom of Information act, how can someone still possibly  think folks seeking truths are being silly? Sure, live your life with your head in the sand but why try to perpetrate projecting this way of thinking on others???

 In the current world of free flowing information we currently live in, those who write off any conspiracy theories as quacky or illogical are the ones who look absolutely foolish! The information is out there. Why ignore it?? Whose being illogical here??


 
www.foia.gov/how-to.html

[liftit]

You got me, I'm handsomely rewarded to discredit conspiracy theories. It's the only explanation

[merrikii1]

The thing is, I devoured all things history. I wanted to know every country's religion, historical data and insight. This was my first glimpse that things are not what is deemed as truth. Even in main-stream science, what's accepted as fact is mostly "theory" that is later disproved.

[benji]

Mar 18, 2017 15:59:13 GMT -5 liftit said:

You got me, I'm handsomely rewarded to discredit conspiracy theories. It's the only explanation

Now, instead of engaging the question of your motives with a response, attempt to discredit people through dismissal. Have you ever read anything by Edward bernays? It sounds like you have.

[benji]

Again, If your not convinced or interested in these topics why participate in this thread? What interest would you have in negatively speaking on these topics? The only 2 interests I can think of our your own fear of the possibility of any of this being true and your inability to deal with those facts, or a personal interest in some sort of personal gain like financial rewards.

[oldgeek]

We have the right to disagree with your propaganda just as you have the right to disagree with ours.

I usually do not get involved in conversations such as this because no one usually wins, but here goes.

I would like to elaborate on ONE thing that I have done personal research on. Chemtrails. They are really condensation trails. We have them here continuously, and when the weather is right you can see MANY in the sky at the same time.
How do I know what they are? When I heard about chemtrails I decided to investigate what was going on. I realized I could use flightaware live to see where MOST airplanes are in the sky in real time. I simply located a trail in the sky and pretty much found a plane on flightaware, usually a commercial passenger JET that was right where the trail was. I did this over and over, to MY satisfaction.

I also asked a friend that has worked at the airport for 30 years if he ever saw anything suspicious such as tankers carrying unknown liquids. His answer was absolutely not.

I also would like to know how a passenger jet loaded with fuel, people and luggage has room for secret tanks to dispense these massive amounts of CHEMS? Trails that can be seen for miles and miles and miles.

Furthermore, if you have an air compressor you likely know what it does to the air. In the process of compressing the air it also heats it (like a jet engine?) which causes the water in the air to evaporate. Water that then condenses in the cooler holding tank. It is quite amazing how fast water builds up in the bottom of your tank.

Have clouds ever been seeded? CERTAINLY! Have crops ever been sprayed with pesticides? CERTAINLY!

I say do some real research of your own, dont listen to what others spew, many of them just like to hear themselves talk.

[gsx600racer]

I threatened my microwave to talk or id unplug it, it finally gave in an now it doesn't shut up.

[spaz12]

Chemtrails don't really interest me, but here's an Air Force staff sgt whistle blower talking about them.

She doesn't look crazy to me...

[oldgeek]

Mar 18, 2017 21:25:22 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

I threatened my microwave to talk or id unplug it, it finally gave in an now it doesn't shut up.

True story, forgive me if I told it here already.

It happened years ago when my oldest daughter was around 14 years old. Late one night in the kitchen the "stove" was making this really, really weird repetitive morse code-gibberish-alien-robot sound that freaked her out. Scared her enough to get her mother to investigate. Scared mother enough to wake me up. They were afraid to get near it and wanted me to unplug it. I listened for a moment and decided to have some fun with them. I told them I knew a little morse code and to get a paper and pencil and write down what I tell them as I decoded it! I listened intently and said "that is definitely an "I" the next is a "D" now a number "1" and a "0" that last one was a "T" I then asked them what it spelled? ID10T (idiot) Turned out they were hearing a child's electronic keyboard shorted out by rainwater. It was outside but could be barely be heard through the vent in the wall from the stove hood. LOL! It was really making some weird repetitive noises. To this day all I have to do to them is mock that "sound" and we all ROFL!

[merrikii1]

Sure this is coming from the engine.

[benji]

Blown headgasket haha

[benji]

I've seen contrails. Chem trails stay in a blue sky and spread for hours. It's also common knowledge the military uses something called "flack", which is various materials sprayed out of the back of a military(not commercial) aircraft for the purpose of radar blocking, satellite imaging blocking, vision blocking, etc. I doubt Alaska Airlines is spraying anything, but our military and the British airforce sprayed England with toxic chemicals for decades.
www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience
Just cuz things look OK at your local airport doesn't mean Chem trails don't exist. I didn't see them until about 5-7 years ago personally, then I started seeing the "new" clouds- a strange type of cloud that comes from chemtrails that spreads across the sky different from overcast clouds I'm used to(being born and raised in seattle). I don't think there being used everywhere.

[oldgeek]

Mar 19, 2017 1:54:25 GMT -5 benji said:

I've seen contrails. Chem trails stay in a blue sky and spread for hours............

Wow My contrails behave EXACTLY as you describe your chemtrails do! Thanks for opening my eyes to your REAL truth. My avatar says "Lost in the tall grass" but in reality I hide here, because I feel safer. It is my own form of "FLACK"

I withdraw from this conversation, I can't take any more truth at this time.

[merrikii1]

niz76, all this mess about doing research and such. I used the freedom of information act link. Typed stratosphere injection, and many links popped up. All the talk is meaningless because closed-minded people would rather put people down instead of actually doing five damn minutes of work. The truth is actually easy to find. search.foia.gov/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&m=true&affiliate=foia.gov&query=stratosphere+injections+&op=Search

My research into self-awareness has proven cognitive dissonance. It's really hard to change someones belief system and most people will punch the *uck out of somebody that tries. www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2baCg8SHGM

[90GTVert]

Stuff like the chemtrails debates are tough for me. I don't believe that I'm educated or informed enough to take a stance beyond simply that I believe that cloud seeding/chem trails have been used and are documented and likely continue to be used... but I don't worry when planes fly over. I think a lot of these things are difficult to form educated opinions on, because of the lack of unbiased/factual information. I will remain skeptical about what I'm told by the news the same as I'm skeptical about what a so called "conspiracy theorist" tells me. I'm glad there are people out there that do question things to the point of conducting extensive research though. I suppose best case scenario is that they're correct and we learn about something that can be stopped, prevented, etc... Worst case, as long as no one does anything destructive or whatever, people just think they're crazy... but they were trying to do what they felt was right and they did pursue something that they believed in. If everyone just observed like I tend to with these things, we wouldn't ever really know anything that we weren't told. We're more likely to learn something by respecting what others say than by dismissing them totally.