LED Kit

[idon]

Hello, I purchased an LED kit that I can connect to the battery and it will light up but it stays on. I don’t want that. I want to have the LED’s turn on when I turn on my 50cc Scooter ignition switch. How can I do that? Any suggestions? I’m new to this so a little tutorial would be nice, thanks in advance.

[gsx600racer]

You will need to use a relay and find the "key on" positive wire from the ignition switch.

[idon]

Nov 13, 2017 2:24:24 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

You will need to use a relay and find the "key on" positive wire from the ignition switch.

Thanks bro but that lost me. Here’s the kit I’m working with

www.walmart.com/ip/72-inch-Exterior-Smart-Lighting-Kit/382940699

I have all the little things hat come with it and the way I want to connect it is by when the scooter is on. That video that you posted might work for somebody but not with me lol sorry. Any detailed video?

[humanshield]

Idon,
Sometimes it's best to get someone with a bit more experience to help you.
(Or pay someone to do it)
You could potentially make things worse.

It's no shame to get help. I don't do roofing so I call for help on that and things I'm not good at.

That said, I posted a long "How To" on my LED light installation on my scooter complete with exact wiring.
(And someone here jumped on my case for being "too detailed")

Anyway, if you search on my Username and LED HEADLIGHT, you'll find it.   It's pretty much a wire-for-wire, step by step instructions.

Good luck

[idon]

Nov 13, 2017 10:55:53 GMT -5 humanshield said:

Idon,
Sometimes it's best to get someone with a bit more experience to help you.
(Or pay someone to do it)
You could potentially make things worse.

It's no shame to get help. I don't do roofing so I call for help on that and things I'm not good at.

That said, I posted a long "How To" on my LED light installation on my scooter complete with exact wiring.
(And someone here jumped on my case for being "too detailed")

Anyway, if you search on my Username and LED HEADLIGHT, you'll find it.   It's pretty much a wire-for-wire, step by step instructions.

Good luck

I will try when I get home and I understand but I like to do things myself to learn

[idon]

Nov 13, 2017 10:55:53 GMT -5 humanshield said:

Idon,
Sometimes it's best to get someone with a bit more experience to help you.
(Or pay someone to do it)
You could potentially make things worse.

It's no shame to get help. I don't do roofing so I call for help on that and things I'm not good at.

That said, I posted a long "How To" on my LED light installation on my scooter complete with exact wiring.
(And someone here jumped on my case for being "too detailed")

Anyway, if you search on my Username and LED HEADLIGHT, you'll find it.   It's pretty much a wire-for-wire, step by step instructions.

Good luck

Tried searching for it but you have too many posts . Can you link me to the thread if you would? Thanks in advance

[diynuke]

Nov 13, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -5 idon said:

Nov 13, 2017 10:55:53 GMT -5 humanshield said:

Idon,
Sometimes it's best to get someone with a bit more experience to help you.
(Or pay someone to do it)
You could potentially make things worse.

It's no shame to get help. I don't do roofing so I call for help on that and things I'm not good at.

That said, I posted a long "How To" on my LED light installation on my scooter complete with exact wiring.
(And someone here jumped on my case for being "too detailed")

Anyway, if you search on my Username and LED HEADLIGHT, you'll find it.   It's pretty much a wire-for-wire, step by step instructions.

Good luck

Tried searching for it but you have too many posts . Can you link me to the thread if you would? Thanks in advance

You could also use a multimeter to find out which wire it is ;D

just connect the black lead of the multimeter to the ground/negative and pull the rubber boot off the contact switch so you can acces the exposed wire's..   then you will need to search for the one that will give 12v when it's on and no voltage when it's off

It is led tho so it doesn't really take allot of power so you could power it from the contacts however the contact will wear out quicker 
and since a relay really isn't that expensive its not a bad idea

how to wire it?     just run a wire to the battery's positive and put it on the make contact of the relay  

(here is an pic i hope the link work's    having gateway trouble..) tech.240sxone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/relay_diagram_02.gif

the trigger wire is the positive wire you found using the multimeter and the ground you could use a little crimp connector with a ring to put it on the bolt of the voltage regulator or just put an additional wire to the battery.(negative)

and please don't splice in your cable harness where its hard to repair and don't cut too close to connectors so you have allot of room to repair it.    and solder it..   i made the same mistake. Using those cheap splice connectors. spent a half day troubleshooting.;P

i hope i helped you a bit and well i guess if ya have more question's just ask them i like explaining things (if i know where i am talking about xD)


Ps fuse is optional but it is smart to install one to be sure if a short happens not everything burn's down to a pile of ash.... and some scrapheap steel  5amps should be plenty.

Optional: www.dalroad.com/product/autoelettric-autoelettric-relays-with-fuse/    

[idon]

Nov 13, 2017 17:45:02 GMT -5 diynuke said:

Nov 13, 2017 13:40:42 GMT -5 idon said:

Tried searching for it but you have too many posts . Can you link me to the thread if you would? Thanks in advance

You could also use a multimeter to find out which wire it is ;D

just connect the black lead of the multimeter to the ground/negative and pull the rubber boot off the contact switch so you can acces the exposed wire's..   then you will need to search for the one that will give 12v when it's on and no voltage when it's off

It is led tho so it doesn't really take allot of power so you could power it from the contacts however the contact will wear out quicker 
and since a relay really isn't that expensive its not a bad idea

how to wire it?     just run a wire to the battery's positive and put it on the make contact of the relay  

(here is an pic i hope the link work's    having gateway trouble..) tech.240sxone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/relay_diagram_02.gif

the trigger wire is the positive wire you found using the multimeter and the ground you could use a little crimp connector with a ring to put it on the bolt of the voltage regulator or just put an additional wire to the battery.(negative)

and please don't splice in your cable harness where its hard to repair and don't cut too close to connectors so you have allot of room to repair it.    and solder it..   i made the same mistake. Using those cheap splice connectors. spent a half day troubleshooting.;P

i hope i helped you a bit and well i guess if ya have more question's just ask them i like explaining things (if i know where i am talking about xD)


Ps fuse is optional but it is smart to install one to be sure if a short happens not everything burn's down to a pile of ash.... and some scrapheap steel  5amps should be plenty.

Optional: www.dalroad.com/product/autoelettric-autoelettric-relays-with-fuse/    

Can’t I just connect it with a 3 prong switch instead? Would that be easier? The kit already comes with a fuse so don’t need to buy one. And would I still need a relay? How would I connect he relay if I’m using a 3 prong Switch to switch it on and off?

[diynuke]

Nov 13, 2017 17:55:21 GMT -5 idon said:

Nov 13, 2017 17:45:02 GMT -5 diynuke said:

You could also use a multimeter to find out which wire it is ;D

just connect the black lead of the multimeter to the ground/negative and pull the rubber boot off the contact switch so you can acces the exposed wire's..   then you will need to search for the one that will give 12v when it's on and no voltage when it's off

It is led tho so it doesn't really take allot of power so you could power it from the contacts however the contact will wear out quicker 
and since a relay really isn't that expensive its not a bad idea

how to wire it?     just run a wire to the battery's positive and put it on the make contact of the relay  

(here is an pic i hope the link work's    having gateway trouble..) tech.240sxone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/relay_diagram_02.gif

the trigger wire is the positive wire you found using the multimeter and the ground you could use a little crimp connector with a ring to put it on the bolt of the voltage regulator or just put an additional wire to the battery.(negative)

and please don't splice in your cable harness where its hard to repair and don't cut too close to connectors so you have allot of room to repair it.    and solder it..   i made the same mistake. Using those cheap splice connectors. spent a half day troubleshooting.;P

i hope i helped you a bit and well i guess if ya have more question's just ask them i like explaining things (if i know where i am talking about xD)


Ps fuse is optional but it is smart to install one to be sure if a short happens not everything burn's down to a pile of ash.... and some scrapheap steel  5amps should be plenty.

Optional: www.dalroad.com/product/autoelettric-autoelettric-relays-with-fuse/    

Can’t I just connect it with a 3 prong switch instead? Would that be easier? The kit already comes with a fuse so don’t need to buy one. And would I still need a relay? How would I connect he relay if I’m using a 3 prong Switch to switch it on and off?

i guess what you mean with a 3 prong switch is 1 contact is the common  1 is the normale closed contact and 1 is the normal open contact
But yeah you could do that but do remember when you forget to put it off you will drain your battery.   

That doesn't really matter that much when you have an ac cdi   with an dc cdi the scoot will become very hard to start since the dc cdi will use the battery to generate the spark..    As far as i know ey ;P               but you can see that on the size of the cdi     if its an chinese scoot its most likely an ac cdi  but yeah you can test wire it first with the switch and if its reliable and looks nice you can make it permanent  

[gsx600racer]

I only suggested the use of a relay because you never specified what type of LED lighting was being used in your FIRST post. Most swap out headlights to LED off road lights, and some then have decent current draw. The power circuit is usually fuses for 5 amps. Adding LED headlights to that circuit might be pushing the fuses/circuits capacity/limit. The contacts on the relay can handle more current than the key switch circuit/contacts.

Now that you have specified what you are using,I think you could piggy back the "key on" positive side of the switch to power the lights. For safety, Id make sure there is a separate fuse for the the LED lighting.

You will need to get yourself a multi-meter, remove the plastics and start checking the wiring at the key switch to see which one carries(switched) power to connect the lights to. Although most gy6 scooters wiring is the same, there are some variations out there. So saying, connect the LED positive wire to(XXXXXX)color wire might not be a true statement. You will have to do exploring with the multimeter yourself and figure it out.

[idon]

Nov 14, 2017 0:42:57 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

I only suggested the use of a relay because you never specified what type of LED lighting was being used in your FIRST post. Most swap out headlights to LED off road lights, and some then have decent current draw. The power circuit is usually fuses for 5 amps. Adding LED headlights to that circuit might be pushing the fuses/circuits capacity/limit. The contacts on the relay can handle more current than the key switch circuit/contacts.

Now that you have specified what you are using,I think you could piggy back the "key on" positive side of the switch to power the lights. For safety, Id make sure there is a separate fuse for the the LED lighting.

You will need to get yourself a multi-meter, remove the plastics and start checking the wiring at the key switch to see which one carries(switched) power to connect the lights to. Although most gy6 scooters wiring is the same, there are some variations out there. So saying, connect the LED positive wire to(XXXXXX)color wire might not be a true statement. You will have to do exploring with the multimeter yourself and figure it out.

Remove what plastics ? And do I have to have he switch on when I look for it? I don’t know how to use a multi meter

[gsx600racer]

Nov 14, 2017 1:21:39 GMT -5 idon said:

Nov 14, 2017 0:42:57 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

I only suggested the use of a relay because you never specified what type of LED lighting was being used in your FIRST post. Most swap out headlights to LED off road lights, and some then have decent current draw. The power circuit is usually fuses for 5 amps. Adding LED headlights to that circuit might be pushing the fuses/circuits capacity/limit. The contacts on the relay can handle more current than the key switch circuit/contacts.

Now that you have specified what you are using,I think you could piggy back the "key on" positive side of the switch to power the lights. For safety, Id make sure there is a separate fuse for the the LED lighting.

You will need to get yourself a multi-meter, remove the plastics and start checking the wiring at the key switch to see which one carries(switched) power to connect the lights to. Although most gy6 scooters wiring is the same, there are some variations out there. So saying, connect the LED positive wire to(XXXXXX)color wire might not be a true statement. You will have to do exploring with the multimeter yourself and figure it out.

Remove what plastics ? And do I have to have he switch on when I look for it? I don’t know how to use a multi meter

I like to do things myself to learn

Go to Youtube.

Lookup how to use a multimeter.  

Lookup how a scooter ignition switch works/wired.

Google the wiring diagram for your scooter and learn how things are wired. 

You did say you wanted to learn. 

[idon]

Nov 14, 2017 1:41:50 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

Nov 14, 2017 1:21:39 GMT -5 idon said:

Remove what plastics ? And do I have to have he switch on when I look for it? I don’t know how to use a multi meter

I like to do things myself to learn

Go to Youtube.

Lookup how to use a multimeter.  

Lookup how a scooter ignition switch works/wired.

Google the wiring diagram for your scooter and learn how things are wired. 

You did say you wanted to learn. 

Yes but I’m not going to google everything I need to do that defeats the whole purpose of me asking for help in here.

[gsx600racer]

Nov 14, 2017 1:55:32 GMT -5 idon said:

Nov 14, 2017 1:41:50 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

Go to Youtube.

Lookup how to use a multimeter.  

Lookup how a scooter ignition switch works/wired.

Google the wiring diagram for your scooter and learn how things are wired. 

You did say you wanted to learn. 

Yes but I’m not going to google everything I need to do that defeats the whole purpose of me asking for help in here.

Several members here besides myself have offered suggestions to HELP you. Its time for you to step up and put more effort on your part. 

If you cant figure out how to remove the plastics around the ignition switch, learn how to use tools to do the job, learn how things work by doing it yourself then maybe you should take it to someone that knows what they are doing and pay them to do it.

You have never said what the year, make and model of your scooter is, but we are supposed to guess. You are not even helping us to help you. 

[idon]

Nov 14, 2017 2:07:06 GMT -5 gsx600racer said:

Nov 14, 2017 1:55:32 GMT -5 idon said:

Yes but I’m not going to google everything I need to do that defeats the whole purpose of me asking for help in here.

Several members here besides myself have offered suggestions to HELP you. Its time for you to step up and put more effort on your part. 

If you cant figure out how to remove the plastics around the ignition switch, learn how to use tools to do the job, learn how things work by doing it yourself then maybe you should take it to someone that knows what they are doing and pay them to do it.

You have never said what the year, make and model of your scooter is, but we are supposed to guess. You are not even helping us to help you. 

It’s a 2017 PEACE SPORTS TPGS-805

I will remove the plastic today. I bought a digital auto multimeter which could help me. I guess. So when I find the correct wire do I splice it with the led’s? And just put a connector to it?