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Post by kctaylor on Jun 13, 2018 1:12:32 GMT -5
What is the first mod I should start with looking to eventually bore it to a 90 or maybe 100cc?
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Post by eclark5483 on Jun 13, 2018 1:21:18 GMT -5
New carb, the stock ones are sealed and are junk.
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Post by Lucass2T on Jun 13, 2018 4:51:04 GMT -5
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Post by humanshield on Jun 13, 2018 7:46:02 GMT -5
What is the first mod I should start with looking to eventually bore it to a 90 or maybe 100cc? Highly subjective..... But may i recommend the first mods to be a helmet and a good pair of riding gloves?
If you've ever come off a bike at speed as I have, and your hands meet pavement, you'll never want to go through that again. It's rare, but if it happens you'll probably wish you'd been wearing both.
After that, a BBK, cam and carb upgrade can completely change it from a wimpy creeper, to a reasonably capable scoot.
As far as the path to the BBK, just make sure you get a kit that includes a head designed for the kit especially if you go to 100cc as I did. And then just do it. You'll want to do the Jug & piston, carb and cam at the same time. Reason being is you'll already have everything apart and as far as the carb, lots of tuning to do so you want to already have the carb on it you want to tune for the BBK.
Just opinions from my experience. YMMV.
Good luck and most of all, have fun.
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Post by pinkscoot on Jun 13, 2018 17:12:28 GMT -5
 +1 to Lucas2t comment, Brent has done this and got some good results. Do a good PDI then start simple the carb and CVT first learn the scoot then look at the BBK. |
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Post by jackrides on Jun 13, 2018 17:50:40 GMT -5
Welcome! Great fun and experiments ahead!
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Post by aeroxbud on Jun 16, 2018 2:52:48 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum.
I must warn you, once you start to modify your scooter, you are following Alice down the rabbit hole!
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handyman
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missing riding my scooter thanks to the winter here in the northeast.
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Post by handyman on Jun 23, 2018 6:44:16 GMT -5
My suggestion is what I should have done from the beginning is, not to have purchased a 49cc and purchased a 150cc, But that's in the past. The reason I say that is, The money I have spent on upgrading my 49cc to a 100cc I could have bought the 150cc. Goodluck
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Post by tortoise2 on Jun 23, 2018 8:45:22 GMT -5
My suggestion is what I should have done from the beginning is, not to have purchased a 49cc and purchased a 150cc EXCELLENT advise for those researching selecting their first scooter. So many succumb to "gaming the state statutes" and experience the typical 50cc disappointment . . example. |
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Post by scooterpimp on Jun 23, 2018 17:13:21 GMT -5
Welcome , just keep it maintained & ride it like ya stole it!!!
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Post by merrikii1 on Jun 25, 2018 12:21:58 GMT -5
I've owned 3 taotao scooters. Go over every screw and bolt. Tighten them but don't strip them. Change the garbage fluids in them even before riding the scoot.
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Post by 65cabriolet on Jul 25, 2018 22:05:08 GMT -5
IMHO, make a plan of exactly what you want to get from the bike, if it is realistic, then figure out the best way to achieve that goal... AND THEN STICK TO JUST THAT, NO MORE NO LESS.
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Post by humanshield on Jul 26, 2018 7:24:51 GMT -5
My suggestion is what I should have done from the beginning is, not to have purchased a 49cc and purchased a 150cc, But that's in the past. The reason I say that is, The money I have spent on upgrading my 49cc to a 100cc I could have bought the 150cc. Goodluck I could be wrong but I was under the impression that many get a 50cc scooter to avoid the need to get a License. Maybe that's changed.
To the OP..... I have both, a modified 100cc (originally 50cc) scooter and a near stock but performance150cc scooter.
It's just my opinion, but a stock 50cc scooter is not street capable (where there's any kind of traffic that is)
Even modified, my now so called "100cc" scooter (with 50mm piston, actually 83cc)and cam and some other mods is still not really good for commuting where there's much traffic. It's great for runs close to home but just not capable enough to go more than a few miles (safely) in my opinion. The 150 on the other hand.....I've had it on interstate I-95 once. It was maxed out but capable.
It'll do 60-65ish. I've ridden it over 100 miles at a pop through REALLY busy metro areas (Miami) with no problems keeping up with that crazy traffic. A 250cc scooter is Interstate ready. You could do 65 comfortably all day long on a 250cc scooter.
So that's the difference as far as 50cc and 150cc 4 stroke scoots go.
No matter what, I hope you enjoy your scooter as much as I enjoy mine.
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\\-olf
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Post by \\-olf on Jul 26, 2018 12:28:42 GMT -5
My suggestion is what I should have done from the beginning is, not to have purchased a 49cc and purchased a 150cc EXCELLENT advise for those researching selecting their first scooter. So many succumb to "gaming the state statutes" and experience the typical 50cc disappointment . . example. Exactly what I wanted to say! Why buy a 49cc bike and immediately want to change it to 100cc, and go thru the expense and work tearing it all apart to do that, replacing the carb a second time and messing with the tuning and other changes needed to optimize it all, why not buy a larger bike in the first place, one that's made for a 100-150cc engine. The 49 cc bikes in many/most states have special considerations for the DMV laws, and are usually restricted to a max speed of around 30 or 35mph- gaming the system by putting in a larger engine to go faster definitely opens you up to getting speeding tickets as well as having the cop or DMV check over your bike looking to see WHY it can go 50 or 55 when it is supposed to be designed to go no faster than 30-35, they aren't idiots and if they determine the engine is larger than 49cc then you can get cited for driving a motorcycle without a license and not having insurance- many places dont require a special license or insurance IF the engine is 49cc, but once you pass that number you are in the motorcycle classification and are required to have a motorcycle road test and license plus insurance. Varies state to state but in most states the 49cc comes under that wire and is in a "motorized bicycle" or similar category. |
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Post by joebob on Jul 26, 2018 18:43:32 GMT -5
i agree. i understand the challenge and the thrill of getting maximum performance out of an engine that is MUCH smaller than a lawnmower engine, in fact i got caught up in it myself (however briefly); but if something REALLY nasty happens while circumventing the licensing requirements of your jurisdiction, well ... lawyers are not exactly known for their compassion.
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+1 to Lucas2t comment, Brent has done this and got some good results. Do a good 
