From Where to get Carburetor ...

[kymcotallinn]

Looking for thiskind of magic thing, why magic, as the retailers from my country have never seen it, but seems that Kymco People S, 50cc, 4 stroke would need it to have perfect perfomance.

If you know the shop, which has it and also Ships To Estonia, please write here.

Vermi If you will read this, can you compare with your scoot ?

just for clarification I got my scooter in pieces

All the best,
Gallo

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[reveeen]

Are you SURE? (there is no accelerator pump, like is commonly found on 50cc GY6 carbs in the 18mm, 19mm, and 23mm sizes) What you have pictured there is what Scrappydog calls a "Run Tong" carburetor in 24mm (commonly found on 150cc GY6 ATV's)

What size in mm is the throat?

[kymcotallinn]

Aug 30, 2011 15:00:48 GMT -5 reveeen said:

Are you SURE? (there is no accelerator pump, like is commonly found on 50cc GY6 carbs in the 18mm, 19mm, and 23mm sizes) What you have pictured there is what Scrappydog calls a "Run Tong" carburetor in 24mm (commonly found on 150cc GY6 ATV's)

What size in mm is the throat?

This should be 38/18, And as my scooter has triangel, connection splitter into 1 in 2 out and connecter nowhere, so I was looking around internet..and some 50cc scooters has this carb.
here is one of them:
www.youtube.com/user/GalloTopsu?feature=mhee#p/f/22/nq-urtEzBeI

And the sad thing is that on the kymco site they have like a normal carb, so I have no idea where to connect this triangle/ splitter.
kymcopartsonline.com/catalog/search_diagram_detail.php?s_fk_manufacturers_id=21&s_fk_model_year_id=1&s_fk_scooter_model_id=8&osCsid=8075df3dd4ce3d388f47847f7ebaaa1e&s_parts_diagram_id=146&osCsid=8075df3dd4ce3d388f47847f7ebaaa1e

Yes you are right, most of those carbs. are ment for 125cc + .... scooters, so this is even more frustrating :(

[reveeen]

here is one of them:
www.youtube.com/user/GalloTopsu?feature=mhee#p/f/22/nq-urtEzBeI


In the movie.... the carb on the scooter is a OEM Keihin, 50cc type (with an accelerator pump), then it goes into a picture of a carb, like the one you posted, that is completely different.

The People S 50 Carburetor you posted is a "normal" 50cc GY6 (with accelerator pump) carb.

I am going to step out on a limb here.... that "triangle thingy" thing you refer to is called a "vacuum tee", on the 125/150 cc engine it connects to: the intake manifold (where it get's vacuum), a fitting on the throttle cable side of the carb (as seen in your picture, operating the fast idle cold function), and to a vacuum petcock (fuel shut off). If the scooter has a air injection/vapor canister there may be another fitting on the intake manifold for another vacuum connection, or simply another vacuum tee.

So on this carb:
kymcopartsonline.com/catalog/search_diagram_detail.php?s_fk_manufacturers_id=21&s_fk_model_year_id=1&s_fk_scooter_model_id=8&osCsid=8075df3dd4ce3d388f47847f7ebaaa1e&s_parts_diagram_id=146&osCsid=8075df3dd4ce3d388f47847f7ebaaa1e

A vacuum line should come off the intake manifold:
enviromoto.ecrater.com/p/3039609/intake-manifold-50cc-4-stroke

it should go into a "T"

one end hooking to:
1230.850.2000 cover (if so equipped with a vacuum fitting) behind the throttle cable wheel (this can be confusing because some 50cc carbs do not require a vacuum line here as the carb is internally drilled)

The other end hooking to a vacuum petcock (sometimes mistakenly called a fuel pump)
www.partsforscooters.com/Welcome?search=petcock

[kymcotallinn]

all is clrear now, except this: 1230.850.2000 cover ?

[reveeen]

The cover, that is not very clear in the Kymco diagram, either has a vacuum fitting on it, or picks up vacuum internally (through a drilled passage in the carb). The diaphragm under this cover controls your cold fast idle... so if there is no fitting on it, and you have fast idle cold, we can assume that the carb is internally drilled for vacuum. If there is a fitting on the cover it needs vacuum, that you will give it through a vacuum "T" hooked to your intake.

I have a few 50cc carbs here that are internally drilled for vacuum under that cover (requiring no hose), and some that require a hose there. All the 125-150cc carbs I have seen require a hose to that cover.

[kymcotallinn]

Aug 31, 2011 3:45:32 GMT -5 reveeen said:

The cover, that is not very clear in the Kymco diagram, either has a vacuum fitting on it, or picks up vacuum internally (through a drilled passage in the carb). The diaphragm under this cover controls your cold fast idle... so if there is no fitting on it, and you have fast idle cold, we can assume that the carb is internally drilled for vacuum. If there is a fitting on the cover it needs vacuum, that you will give it through a vacuum "T" hooked to your intake.

I have a few 50cc carbs here that are internally drilled for vacuum under that cover (requiring no hose), and some that require a hose there. All the 125-150cc carbs I have seen require a hose to that cover.

Thank you, I will try to find somebody, who has same scooter as mine, maybe this will clear confusion I have in my head. How to connect all those air pipes.

But you have same carb for the 50cc also ?

[reveeen]

I have a 50cc Benzhou that came with a messed up Japanese Keihin (there is no vacuum fitting on that cover), because the intake manifold was cracked, and I had the stuff, I have installed a 150cc manifold and a 24mm Run Tong carb on it. I no longer have a vacuum petcock (as I have had nothing but trouble with them), and I have done away with the air injection (because I couldn't get at the spark plug with that crap in the way. So, in my case, I have a single vacuum line from the manifold to the side cover on my carb (for the fast idle function).

What I would do if I was you is:
1) remove the under seat storage compartments (so I could see what I was working with)
2) look for the things that require vacuum, the petcock (as above), a charcoal canister:


possibly a air injection system:


So now you know what you have to supply vacuum to. So you do that with pieces of vacuum hose and use "T" fittings to split off if required.

It is more than likely where you live does not require this emissions stuff and you may have none of it..... in that case you want to run a simple line from the intake manifold to the fuel petcock.

[kymcotallinn]

Aug 31, 2011 12:33:12 GMT -5 reveeen said:

I have a 50cc Benzhou that came with a messed up Japanese Keihin (there is no vacuum fitting on that cover), because the intake manifold was cracked, and I had the stuff, I have installed a 150cc manifold and a 24mm Run Tong carb on it. I no longer have a vacuum petcock (as I have had nothing but trouble with them), and I have done away with the air injection (because I couldn't get at the spark plug with that crap in the way. So, in my case, I have a single vacuum line from the manifold to the side cover on my carb (for the fast idle function).

What I would do if I was you is:
1) remove the under seat storage compartments (so I could see what I was working with)
2) look for the things that require vacuum, the petcock (as above), a charcoal canister:


possibly a air injection system:


So now you know what you have to supply vacuum to. So you do that with pieces of vacuum hose and use "T" fittings to split off if required.

It is more than likely where you live does not require this emissions stuff and you may have none of it..... in that case you want to run a simple line from the intake manifold to the fuel petcock.

Thank you, now I will need to see how its works on my scoot ;)

[kymcotallinn]

Hi Reveen,

look this pic, I found under the seat..
nagi.ee/photos/photo_sizes.php?id=19428455&size=o

Strange things....
If I understand correctly:
nr 2 Keihin KT CVK carb ?
nr 9... 88?
And nr 10 Clutch is 118,5? ( normal is 105 or 108 )