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Post by utidropout on Jul 10, 2019 2:20:16 GMT -5
I used to own a Yamaha 50cc, and I compared it within my mind to my TaoTao 50cc. There is no comparison. Not that I support non survivable scooter speeds; it is just the Yamaha seemed superior for stability at speed. In my opinion, the Yamaha just felt like it balanced better for whatever reason unknown to me.
Please post your thoughts. Please reference to only makes and models currently available as new.
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lupo76
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Post by lupo76 on Jul 10, 2019 4:33:40 GMT -5
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the longer the wheelbase, the more stability.
Also the heaviest point must be as low as possible for stability.
Front axle BEHIND fork tube: High agility, low stability.
Front axle IN fork tube: Good combination
Front axle IN FRONT of fork tube: maximum stability, lowest agility.
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Post by pinkscoot on Jul 10, 2019 7:36:21 GMT -5
My Vespas are solid handling scooters. The ergonomics are good and they are easy to flick around. Down side 10" wheels so pot holes are exciting. But at 50 mph it is steady as a rock. My SR50 is great once I'm up on it, I find the seat and floor boards a little high. But the 13" wheels handle anything that comes at me and dual disk breaks make it stop on a dime.
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Post by jackrides on Jul 10, 2019 13:40:41 GMT -5
Based on my 8K miles on my Tao, Your observations are right on. 10" wheels are useable, but bad news.
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Post by tiny on Jul 10, 2019 20:23:34 GMT -5
I love driving me ZX50 great ride with 12" front and rear tyres same with my Super9.
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Post by ryan_ott on Jul 10, 2019 20:41:03 GMT -5
The bigger the wheels the more stable they tend to be. Heavy scoots tend to also give you a secure feeling.
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PDub
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Post by PDub on Jul 16, 2019 21:50:50 GMT -5
Based on my 8K miles on my Tao, Your observations are right on. 10" wheels are useable, but bad news. the Ruckus has 10" wheels, but the tires are massive, which sort of makes up for it. Nothing at all like my old Sprees, which also had 10" wheels... |
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Post by culcune on Jul 23, 2019 1:10:47 GMT -5
I ride a TGB Express 50 on the weekends for my side job delivering for a pizza place. The restaurant had it de-restricted and it hits an indicated 45 mph, and the bonus is the 2t sound. It does okay on the poor quality streets around the Hollywood area of Los Angeles. I have ridden the TGB Key West briefly a few years back which I liked a lot due to its wide tires in spite of the 10" size (like what PDub mentioned above about the Ruckus and its 10" wheels).
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Post by pete130 on Jul 28, 2019 4:37:40 GMT -5
Iv been on a few scouts and my I like my yq 100 aerox both the 50 and 100cc handle as well 13in wheels make a big difference I think ride a italjet 172cc last weekend felt very similar to aerox but heavier bike but of the 50cc scooters the aerox handles best have a red drivel 50cc no were as good as aerox
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rareanimal
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Post by rareanimal on Aug 1, 2019 21:14:05 GMT -5
My "50cc" dong fang rtx50 has 17" wheels and the axle is in front of the forks. I find her quite stable at any speed. But she is a 120cc single speed titled as a 50 from the factory.
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Post by streetsweeper on Aug 2, 2019 2:29:44 GMT -5
Mines handles higher speeds quite well plus, it has a wind screen on it that made it fun learning how to drive with it at first. Now its muscle memory and easy to ride. 10" tires on it.
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Post by aeroxbud on Aug 3, 2019 22:38:41 GMT -5
Iv been on a few scouts and my I like my yq 100 aerox both the 50 and 100cc handle as well 13in wheels make a big difference I think ride a italjet 172cc last weekend felt very similar to aerox but heavier bike but of the 50cc scooters the aerox handles best have a red drivel 50cc no were as good as aerox Even at 65 MPH my Aerox still felt ok. Like it could handle more. Nice wide tyres do help. My slider feels ok at 50. It's got a 10" rear, and 12" front with off road style balloon tyres. I think the big tyres like on a Zuma help on small wheels. |
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Post by ThomasTPFL on Aug 4, 2019 9:24:23 GMT -5
My Key West with Express wheels, 14/12, still felt solid at 60+ mph except for when the side winds hit me. With the balloony 10" tires not so much, but it corners nicer on those.
My Vespa v90 is terrifying at 50.
My Super 150 is terrifying at 40.
My Puch was terrifying at 35+.
My Tomos is OK at 50.
The XJ750 is fine up to over 100 but the wind starts to really aggravate me over 70.
It's all a combination of weight, wheelbase, geometry, and balance. This things are so small your weight and positioning has a real effect on handling. I'm 6'3" and if I want my bikes to handle at their best I have to consciously scoot up on the saddle past what's comfortable to get my weight where it belongs because otherwise I'm putting too much weight on the back wheel
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Post by rocketdog on Aug 10, 2019 17:13:03 GMT -5
"It's all a combination of weight, wheelbase, geometry, and balance. This things are so small your weight and positioning has a real effect on handling. I'm 6'3" and if I want my bikes to handle at their best I have to consciously scoot up on the saddle past what's comfortable to get my weight where it belongs because otherwise I'm putting too much weight on the back wheel".
^^^^^^ Amen, I'm with ya Thomas. I'm 6'3" and if I scoot back they get squirrely.
My LML Star 150 is terrifying at 50- unless I scoot way up
My generic Chinese 170 is rock solid at 60+ and fairly comfortable
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