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Post by Kenho21 on May 16, 2020 19:41:16 GMT -5
I'm doing my least favorite activity on the Kymco... changing tires. I don't think I've ever had it go smoothly, ever. If one tire goes smoothly, the other will be a nightmare. This time is proving to be no different.
Haven't even got past the front tire yet and I'm at my wits end. I've tried the carb cleaner/explosion trick, ratchet strap, lubricant, bike pump, drove to an air pump, and inflated it all the way to 70psi or better and the same 2-3 inch area WILL NOT SEAT no matter what I do! I'd just a tad frustrated.
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Post by FrankenMech on May 16, 2020 20:41:24 GMT -5
Clean the rim and bead all around, check for damage or bent spots, lots of lube and 0.5 psi air pressure and wiggle it around.
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Post by Kenho21 on May 16, 2020 20:51:23 GMT -5
RIm is in very good condition. I checked it over and cleaned it very well prior to the ordeal. I've tried rolling it over the problem area with low pressure to get it to splay more, but no luck. I supposed I can try more lube, but I've had it pretty slick with some Simple Green in a spray bottle and then tried straight dish soap. I have it sitting with about 50psi in it right now and will leave it overnight.
I suppose tomorrow I can try some moly grease on it tomorrow. Maybe I need more slip.
If it wasn't COVID times, I'd just take it to a shop with a cheetah or something. I think I'd always rather pay than deal with this crap every time.
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bandito2
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Post by bandito2 on May 17, 2020 0:48:01 GMT -5
People that have put car tires on their bikes have often come across
difficulty getting the tire to seat on the bead. Yes, a clean rim and
lots of lubricant are important. Better success for some has come with
the tire being warmed up by letting it sit in the sun for a while first
and/or using a ratchet strap around the center line of the tire then
letting it sit like that overnight if it doesn't do it right away.
Don't get too crazy with over pressure because you can damage the tire.
I'm just assuming there may be YouTube videos on how that is done. You
might check some of those to see what has been tried, what works and
what doesn't. (possibly along with the wisdom of some "Don't do that"
when dealing with a stubborn tire seating)
just my 2 cents. Good luck
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Post by Zino on May 17, 2020 6:53:30 GMT -5
I had trouble with my vino tires .
My neighbor is a farmer .
His air compressor just set the bead just like boom and its done.
My air compressor just did not have the oomph.
Leaving them out in the hot sun has worked before and ratchet straps but this one was ridicoulously stubborn.
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Post by 90GTVert on May 17, 2020 7:41:18 GMT -5
I usually bounce the tire to push out the sidewalls in trouble areas.
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Post by geoffh on May 17, 2020 9:52:36 GMT -5
Bounce didn't,t quite do it for me I had to hurl my front tyre with all my might and vengeance till it sealed  . Geoff |
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Post by pinkscoot on May 17, 2020 10:53:20 GMT -5
A large compressor is the trick to get it to seat. Stupid question, did you pull the valve stem? I had trouble with one and realized I left that in and the air couldn't just rush in.
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Post by Kenho21 on May 17, 2020 11:05:32 GMT -5
Finally got it! I think I had tried everything suggested except high pressure pumps (no access atm), and heat. So today, I hit it with the heat gun and a good amount of lube.
First I tried with a bunch of geese and didn’t work. The heat gun + grease was may Hail Mary attempt and it actually worked!
Now I just have to hope I didn’t do any damage by inflating to like 70psi while trying to get it to seat. I had to do it again to get them to seat.
And now the rear tire...
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Post by wiscootsin on May 17, 2020 12:42:33 GMT -5
yeah. a whole bunch of dish soap, ratchet strap on the tire, and then putting my air compressor that's at 120 with no valves in has been what has worked for me on my kymco rims (zx50, super9lc, cobra cross). But hey when i put a used tire on an agility 50 it went fine with no special tricks!
I watched most of "the mandalorian" while replacing two kymco tires...
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Post by pinkscoot on May 17, 2020 16:49:03 GMT -5
"First I tried with a bunch of geese and didn’t work." How did you use the Geese?
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Post by Kenho21 on May 17, 2020 17:36:10 GMT -5
"First I tried with a bunch of geese and didn’t work." How did you use the Geese? Sorry, geese poop* Isn’t that common practice where you’re from? You take the poop from geese and just put it wherever you need lubrication. Super slick stuff. Next time you see some, pick it up and take it home and save it for when you run out of grease. Hahaha |
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Post by jackrides on May 18, 2020 0:32:45 GMT -5
If the geese die, Please pluck, clean and use them to respect their life. (they are Really good!) 70psi is cool. I've gone to 100 psi which is Dangrous. NOTE: An over inflated tire can explode. My lawyer, of 30 years ago, set the NC record civil award for a tire manufacturer not stating inflation limits for bead seating. Now we have to see that that was a truck tire and was not in an inflation cage. A scoot tire should not do that, But high inflation pressures MUST be Feared. I do it, with lube, and I position myself for minimum damage. The strap around the circumferance helps a lot.
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Post by Kenho21 on May 18, 2020 6:57:02 GMT -5
If the geese die, Please pluck, clean and use them to respect their life. (they are Really good!) 70psi is cool. I've gone to 100 psi which is Dangrous. NOTE: An over inflated tire can explode. My lawyer, of 30 years ago, set the NC record civil award for a tire manufacturer not stating inflation limits for bead seating. Now we have to see that that was a truck tire and was not in an inflation cage. A scoot tire should not do that, But high inflation pressures MUST be Feared. I do it, with lube, and I position myself for minimum damage. The strap around the circumferance helps a lot. Yeah, I've seen videos of truck tires exploding. That's no joke. |
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