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Post by Ronan Alves on Nov 13, 2011 20:50:08 GMT -5
Hey Guys.
I have a Elite110 / Lead110 here in brazil.
But i have difficult to find parts to tune the scoot.
Somebody know this scoot? or other scoot that have the same engine to get parts?
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Post by reveeen on Nov 14, 2011 17:14:55 GMT -5
Sold for only 1 year (2010) in N. America these are a fairly rare bird in these parts. I would not expect to find ANY aftermarket here... like ever!
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Post by aeroxbud on Nov 14, 2011 18:04:13 GMT -5
we have the 100cc lead in europe but its not really a scooter people tune so you might find it hard for performance parts. I had a look on two of the biggest scooter tuning shops and one only does a standard replacement exhaust, the other only styling parts  |
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Post by Ronan Alves on Nov 14, 2011 18:05:10 GMT -5
yeah...
i know that its difficult man...
i dont find nothing! maybe some parts from other scooter fit there...
anyone know?
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Post by stepthrutuner on Nov 14, 2011 20:51:13 GMT -5
I can only suggest removing and measuring (diameters of shafts, spline counts, roller weight and spring dimensions, etc.) components in the cvt and going from there. If the engine is not a totally new design and based on an older design larger bore cylinders might be found. The kicker is adjusting or reprogramming the fuel injection parameters. If you're really desperate you can always strip out the F.I. and put a carb on but that would be an incredible waste of the driveability and low fuel consumption characteristics of your computer controlled engine. An exhaust for a Kymco Agility 125 (Honda based engine) might work if the engine architecture is the same. You're on your own for a year or two until a tuning market evolves and you will need to learn as much as you can about your scooter to know the possibilities available to you.
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Post by Ronan Alves on Nov 15, 2011 6:28:01 GMT -5
Thank you man...
i will do that.. take off everything and mesure. I have a fuel controller here that will reprogramming the fuel injection paramenters, a brasilian company made here.
i will mesure the contrast sprind, rollers , variators and come back here to search something new.,
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Post by stepthrutuner on Nov 15, 2011 15:29:40 GMT -5
Cue us in on that fuel programmer if you don't mind. I'm sure the community here would love to learn about it.
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Post by Ronan Alves on Nov 16, 2011 6:21:28 GMT -5
hey man... no problem... i will be pleasure to share my information with 49scoot. This forum helped me a lot. www.servitecmoto.com.brclick in PRODUTOS / INJEÇAO ELETRONICA / FUEL CONTROLLER SERVITEC. This product cost around R$ 400,00 reais. / $ 235,00 dollar. Specs: Injection Fuel Map Adjust Ingnition Point Adjust REV Adjust if you have some problem to know portuguese. Download the manual and put on google translate. bye |
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Post by stepthrutuner on Nov 16, 2011 23:00:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Ronan. I tried to download the manual but could not complete d/l of the necessary Adobe x plug-in for some reason. Perhaps I can find info some other way.
Do you use ethanol in your scooter as is done in automobiles there?
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Post by Ronan Alves on Nov 18, 2011 6:16:51 GMT -5
we have flex motorcycles here... we can put ethanol and gasoline.
This is good couse gasoline here its too expensive like R$ 2,50 real per literm almost US$ 1,50 per liter.
i got the product here in my store... i will put in the scoot and take a picture to us.
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Post by 90GTVert on Nov 18, 2011 8:48:42 GMT -5
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Post by 90GTVert on Nov 18, 2011 8:50:14 GMT -5
Here's a translated bit to give you the general info :
"User Manual
50.111.40 - Fuel Controller
October 2011 - Review @ 11 - Print Version
Code: 20.80.60
4 / 19
1.1 - General Characteristics
The Fuel Controller is a fully developed piggyback on the bikes to meet Servitec
Brazilian low cylinder engine and a cylinder / piston. Its main functions are: adjustment
injection, ignition and adjustment speed limiter.
Piggyback (same as pickaback, riding on the back) is an electronic device that works
in conjunction with another, using their signals. In the piggyback cars and bikes capture signals
generated by the ECU for the fuel injectors, evaluates these signals, and generates new signals for
guns, which lets you change the amount of fuel being injected. He also
can intercept the signals to the ignition coils and also read signs of some sensors.
The main features of the Fuel Controller are:
Change the sign of the gun, increasing or decreasing the amount of fuel;
Change the sign of the ignition coil, advancing or delaying the point of ignition;
Change the speed limiter, increasing or decreasing.
Panel's own Fuel Controller does not need computer to make adjustments;
Input reading throttle position - TPS;
Reading of the input pulse coil;
Entry MAP sensor reading;
Changes the signals as a function of speed and throttle position;
Two independent settings;
Invisible state (copy signs only, without changing them);
Standard Mode - quick and easy setup;
Advanced mode - precise configuration;
Simulator lambda;
View in real time mix (by reading the lambda probe current bike);
Password;
Support for various models of motorcycles.
It is not recommended to use the Panel Programming in the rain, because this is not proof d 'water.
The Power Module of the Fuel Controller is fully waterproof "water, since this
needs to be installed on the motorcycle. He is totally independent Panel
Programming, which can be connected or removed at any time.
1.2 - Inputs and Outputs
Input / Output
Wire Color
Function
Admission Sync
Green
Input to a standard pulse coil 100Ω to 400Ω.
Input TPS
Rose
Entry for TPS, 0 to 5Vdc. It has calibration.
Input Injection
Gray
Input signal injection. Receives the signal injection
ECU and simulates the behavior of the injector.
Output Injection
White
Output for the injection gun.
Cut-off 12Volts
Orange
Input power to the coil circuit simulator
ignition and injector Page 5
User Manual
50.111.40 - Fuel Controller
October 2011 - Review @ 11 - Print Version
Code: 20.80.60
5 / 19
12Volts key post
Red
Input power to the control circuitry of the Fuel
Controller
0Volts chassis
Black
Power input, 0Volts for the Fuel Controller.
Ignition Input
Yellow
Input signal of ignition. The signal from the ignition
ECU and simulates the behavior of the ignition coil.
Output Ignition
Brown
Output plugs for the ignition coil.
Input Speed
Blue
To read speed for bikes that have this
sensor (the installation of this wire is optional.)
Input Lambda
Lilac
Input signal from the lambda probe of bike to
viewing on the device (the installation of the wire is optional.)
Lambda simulator
Yellow /
Black
Output signal simulation of the signal for lambda probe
the ECU (the installation of the wire is optional.)
Entry MAP
Black /
Red
Input signal from the MAP sensor, for viewing on
machine (the installation of this wire is optional.)"
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Post by stepthrutuner on Nov 18, 2011 10:18:44 GMT -5
Ok, I'm pretty dumb about all this stuff but I am running Win XP Hm. Ed. (circa 2001) without updates including sp2. Every time I have had to reload this and done the updates including sp2 I wind up crashing/locking up after a while. After my last re-installation I chose not to do any updating and while this creates other frustration problems - mostly in web page loads I've not had to reload XP and lose everything. I plan on purchasing a new computer soon and just want to get by w/o my past headaches til then. It's truly amazing that Bill Gates became fantastically wealthy through flawed software products but I guess he made a lot of millionaires in the debug and rectify industry. Thanks for printing out that overview, Brent. |
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Post by 90GTVert on Nov 18, 2011 10:43:37 GMT -5
I had an issue a while back with a service pack for XP Home and that's when I finally said screw this and upped to Win7. That'll teach 'em, by spending on another product. lol At any rate, I've been very pleased with 7.
If you post up in a new thread, Goosey, Reign, or some of the other PC savvy folks here might be more help.
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Post by stepthrutuner on Nov 18, 2011 11:05:59 GMT -5
I had an issue a while back with a service pack for XP Home and that's when I finally said screw this and upped to Win7. That'll teach 'em, by spending on another product. lol At any rate, I've been very pleased with 7. If you post up in a new thread, Goosey, Reign, or some of the other PC savvy folks here might be more help. I loaded up an updated Windows Media Player and that helped with page loading but I have to double click the play/pause button in Youtube. What's up wit dat? I was having to double click before the upgrade too. Oh well, this pos dinocruncher will be history soon enough.  |
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